British 227MM GMLRS
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M270 MLRS Question??
Captin_Caveman_III
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Posted: Friday, May 20, 2011 - 02:10 PM UTC
Ok guys a friend sold my this DML- MLRS kit. An I found this photo of a British 227MM GMLRS. I want to know if the US Military ever used or is using any thing like there slat armor kit.
British 227MM GMLRS
British 227MM GMLRS
redleg12
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Posted: Friday, May 20, 2011 - 02:25 PM UTC
My younger brother Gino will be along shortly...MLRS is his domain......
Though I must admit, it looks kind of goofy. The launcher is unprotected.... strange setup
Rounds Complete!!
Though I must admit, it looks kind of goofy. The launcher is unprotected.... strange setup
Rounds Complete!!
HeavyArty
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Posted: Friday, May 20, 2011 - 03:16 PM UTC
I have never seen a US M270 with slat armor. I'm sure the Brit kit could be fitted to a US MLRS though.
18Bravo
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Posted: Friday, May 20, 2011 - 04:46 PM UTC
I still have some contacts within Lockheed Martin Missile Division from back when I did ATACMS I and II models for them. I'll find out Monday if the US uses it, It does seem strange for the Brits to put slat on a weapon system like that, but I know they've been fooling aroung with it since at least 2009.
jon_a_its
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Posted: Friday, May 20, 2011 - 08:21 PM UTC
The slat "" LOOKS LIKE "" Lockheed-Martin Up-Armour Kit, I'd be inclined to start looking there.
I can't answer IF it was used operationally, as my B-I-L was M109's in Op Granby, (GW1 that is!)
According to THIS dated OCT 2008 the slat armour is an A'stan upgrade & is used there, eg post OP-Tellic.
LOTS of SLAT goodness hereMilitaryphotos
Scroll down to the M270 G/MLRS deployed with slat
& the pic below? M270 MARV, a mate is working on these conversions.....
I can't answer IF it was used operationally, as my B-I-L was M109's in Op Granby, (GW1 that is!)
According to THIS dated OCT 2008 the slat armour is an A'stan upgrade & is used there, eg post OP-Tellic.
LOTS of SLAT goodness hereMilitaryphotos
Scroll down to the M270 G/MLRS deployed with slat
& the pic below? M270 MARV, a mate is working on these conversions.....
PanzerEd
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Posted: Friday, May 20, 2011 - 09:03 PM UTC
http://www.army.mod.uk/artillery/equipment/20578.aspx
Hopefully the link will work.
A quick video of my old regiment.
Hopefully the link will work.
A quick video of my old regiment.
Captin_Caveman_III
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Posted: Saturday, May 21, 2011 - 04:41 AM UTC
Yep the video worked, thanks man.
Yes Heavy I'm with you on the fact that the kit will fit the US version but if I build it, would it be called a what if project?
I'm going to wate to see what "18Bravo" comes up with as well.
"jon_a_its" Militaryphotos is a forum I have gone to mini times for the stunning photos.
Yes Heavy I'm with you on the fact that the kit will fit the US version but if I build it, would it be called a what if project?
I'm going to wate to see what "18Bravo" comes up with as well.
"jon_a_its" Militaryphotos is a forum I have gone to mini times for the stunning photos.
CMOT
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Posted: Saturday, May 21, 2011 - 05:31 AM UTC
The Brits are looking at replacing slat armour with a mesh armour to reduce weight.
18Bravo
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Posted: Saturday, May 21, 2011 - 06:48 AM UTC
If I remember right, it was almost like a fabric. It'll sure give the automotive components on these vehilces a break.
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Posted: Saturday, May 21, 2011 - 07:00 AM UTC
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If I remember right, it was almost like a fabric. It'll sure give the automotive components on these vehilces a break
This reminds me of what's fitted to French VBCIs currently deployed in Afghanistan :
Sorry for the digression Captin
Frenchy
jon_a_its
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Posted: Saturday, May 21, 2011 - 10:25 AM UTC
Interesting French kit....
Just don't tell me its only available from ADV
Just don't tell me its only available from ADV
Captin_Caveman_III
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Posted: Saturday, May 21, 2011 - 04:37 PM UTC
The Boxer MRAV resin kit:
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/review/3716
It looks like the French VBCI Boxer. Maybe the resin company renamed it.
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/review/3716
It looks like the French VBCI Boxer. Maybe the resin company renamed it.
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Posted: Saturday, May 21, 2011 - 05:34 PM UTC
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The Boxer MRAV resin kit:
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/review/3716
It looks like the French VBCI Boxer. Maybe the resin company renamed it.
Another copyright issue ? Just kidding
In fact, the Boxer MRAV project was originally started as a joint venture between Germany, Britain and France, but France left the programme in 1999, later to pursue their own design, the VBCI. There are several 8x8 APCs on the market. that look similar. (8x8 APCs pics ) Polish Rosomaks in Afghanistan are fitted with the "RPG Net" too : 
The MaxxPro MRAP will receive it soon :
http://defense-update.com/wp/20110326_rpg_net.html
On a side note Heller should release a 1/35th scale VBCI kit next September...
Frenchy
CMOT
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Posted: Sunday, May 22, 2011 - 01:42 AM UTC
Frenchy from the limited footage I have seen of it it is so fine you cant really see the vehicle behind it.
Frenchy
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Posted: Sunday, May 22, 2011 - 02:09 AM UTC
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Frenchy from the limited footage I have seen of it it is so fine you cant really see the vehicle behind it.
Hi Darren
Thanks for the info. In fact what I had in mind was the induced weight gain
Frenchy
CMOT
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Posted: Sunday, May 22, 2011 - 03:15 AM UTC
This armour reminds me of the bed spring armour on Russian T34s and a side benefit will be it will be easier to reproduce the effect with PE.
Captin_Caveman_III
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Posted: Sunday, May 22, 2011 - 05:51 AM UTC
Yeah "CMOT" WWII style armor:
SEDimmick
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Posted: Monday, May 23, 2011 - 06:55 AM UTC
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This armour reminds me of the bed spring armour on Russian T34s and a side benefit will be it will be easier to reproduce the effect with PE.
If its anything I saw on the M-ATV at APG last week...PE isn't the way you want to do it. its actually a narrow nylon (most likely Kevlar rope) type rope with metal "buttons" or box like structures making up the mesh.
Frenchy
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Posted: Monday, May 23, 2011 - 07:17 AM UTC
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PE isn't the way you want to do it. its actually a narrow nylon (most likely Kevlar rope) type rope with metal "buttons" or box like structures making up the mesh.
Manufacturer (Qinetiq) brochure :
http://www.qinetiq-na.com/Collateral/Documents/English-US/DS10%20013%20LAST%20NETS%20c.pdf
Manufacturer video :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8N3RV4-UPI&feature=player_embedded (the net appears to be a different variant...)
Frenchy
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Posted: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 - 06:37 AM UTC
WWII styled armor making a comeback.
Photo and Model by Ken Burke.
It looks as if the US never use the slat armor on there MLRS units, so I'll be building the UK version. All I need now is a photo of the GMLRS with out the slat armor. There are some armor upgrads the cab, that I need to see more clearly.
Photo and Model by Ken Burke.
It looks as if the US never use the slat armor on there MLRS units, so I'll be building the UK version. All I need now is a photo of the GMLRS with out the slat armor. There are some armor upgrads the cab, that I need to see more clearly.
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