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M1117 ASV 3-tone camo scheme
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Posted: Thursday, June 04, 2020 - 06:27 AM UTC
Hi all,
after a somewhat extended hiatus of almost five years (time flies ) I'm finally getting back into the hobby.
So anyways, I have this Trumpeter M1117 on my workbench, which I'm planning to build as a vehicle belonging to 18th MP brigade 709MP as seen at JMRC Hohenfels between 2017 and now, in 3-tone finish.
But what was intended as an easy in between-project grinded to a halt lately, as I discovered that the camouflage pattern for the ASV has completely changed over the last years.
so far I've been able to reference the new pattern on all four sides, but there's a glaring blind spot on the upper surface of the engine compartment. So, to cut to the chase: is there anyone on here with access to these vehicles and/or references, who might be able to provide me with a clear picture of what the pattern looks like atop the engine deck?

For those of you wondering how the updated pattern looks, when compared to the older version, here's an example

Cheers
Max
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Posted: Thursday, June 04, 2020 - 07:56 AM UTC
Hans-Hermann would probably do it for a beer.
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Posted: Saturday, June 06, 2020 - 06:27 AM UTC
Rob, thanks, that was a good idea.

I made a little sketch of the late pattern, just in case anyone's interested:


Cheers,
Max
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Posted: Saturday, June 06, 2020 - 09:35 AM UTC
Interesting. Is that from photos he sent you?
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Posted: Saturday, June 06, 2020 - 02:38 PM UTC
Yes, I provided "some" pics for this.
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Posted: Saturday, June 06, 2020 - 05:41 PM UTC
Hi Max,
I don´t think that the camo pattern on the real truck has changed. I rather think that Trumpeter did a sloppy research.
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Posted: Saturday, June 06, 2020 - 11:45 PM UTC
Ya think? When they released the sprue shots in '07 the whole undercarriage was a work of fiction. Fortunately I had one parked not too far from my hooch. Surprisingly, they fixed it.

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Posted: Sunday, June 07, 2020 - 12:32 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Hi Max,
I don´t think that the camo pattern on the real truck has changed. I rather think that Trumpeter did a sloppy research.



I'd usually agree, but not in this case – Trumpeter actually did a pretty decent job here.
Their pattern very closely resembles what can be observed in all walkarounds on Prime Portal. All of the vehicles shown there, used in Iraq (and before that during KFOR Missions) did actually sport this earlier pattern. It can also be seen in the Zwilling Book on the ASV.
As far as I can tell, the change must have first occured somewhere around the 2017 mark (see:this picture ) and was carried on from there.

Cheers,
Max


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Posted: Sunday, June 07, 2020 - 12:49 AM UTC
All right, I stand corrected!
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Posted: Sunday, June 07, 2020 - 12:51 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Ya think? When they released the sprue shots in '07 the whole undercarriage was a work of fiction. Fortunately I had one parked not too far from my hooch. Surprisingly, they fixed it.

Zwischen Du und ich, wer braucht denn Google?



I wish they would have used my M777 references to make a kit of it. But maybe their M198 kit wasn`t selling well?
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Posted: Sunday, June 07, 2020 - 02:34 AM UTC
Another company has mine, with measurements. Maybe we'll be blessed with two kits before long.
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