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New AFV Club M54 announced!
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Posted: Monday, October 02, 2017 - 06:54 PM UTC
This and an M48 AVLB in plastic? Looks like another expensive year to come for us cold war warriors.

Regards Jason
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Posted: Tuesday, October 03, 2017 - 07:26 AM UTC

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We will definitely prepare all of our conversion sets, including all GunTrucks for this new AFV Club model. I look forward to this model myself.




Can you make a conversion for the hood and headlight area to make a M800 series ie M813, M816, M817 etc.
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Posted: Tuesday, October 03, 2017 - 09:33 PM UTC

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We will definitely prepare all of our conversion sets, including all GunTrucks for this new AFV Club model. I look forward to this model myself.




Can you make a conversion for the hood and headlight area to make a M800 series ie M813, M816, M817 etc.



Yes, no problem.
RobH
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Posted: Thursday, January 25, 2018 - 03:13 PM UTC
Looks like the M54 is closer than we thought! We have art work!!!!

(and some other goodies too.....)

we'll see at Nurenberg

AFVclub by Rob Herring, on Flickr
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Posted: Thursday, January 25, 2018 - 04:59 PM UTC
Interesting as to what the 251 will be, their current(old) tooling is old, and has some fit issues, a new tool would be nice, and a first for them.
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Posted: Thursday, January 25, 2018 - 05:08 PM UTC
I wouldn't put too much hope in a new tool for the 251/D Ausf. D.
They have done other variants on the Ausf. D chassis before and they have some or most of the gun parts. Some new bits and pieces to make it fit together but nothing radical.
Just my guesses, I wouldn't mind being proven wrong though
/ Robin
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Posted: Thursday, January 25, 2018 - 06:28 PM UTC
was thinking the same, only hoping for a new tool, maybe ICM will follow their A up with a B,C & D series
RobH
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Posted: Monday, April 09, 2018 - 02:28 PM UTC
so close now!!!

M54 AFV by Rob Herring, on Flickr
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Posted: Monday, April 09, 2018 - 11:33 PM UTC
That M54 just looks fantastic! I can see me buying four or five, and we all know they're going to do an OEM built quad fifty gun truck in the near future.

The Hawk missile tractor seriously interests me as well. (best duty in RVN). Still, other than the M54 truck that seriously makes me do the happy dance is the Korean war Centurion. I'll do a couple of them, so lets hope they do a good job with their research.

I re-read the entire thread as it's a little dated. My comments about the Honest John truck is taken from a good look at one parked about a twenty minutes from me (Camp Atteberry). It for sure a much heavier chassis than a five ton, and looks to be built off the ten ton wrecker platform. (may be even heavier)
We for sure need a ten ton wrecker, and I for one would be all over it.
gary
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Posted: Monday, April 09, 2018 - 11:49 PM UTC
It is supposed to be the M139 (5 ton bridge truck)chassis:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MGR-1_Honest_John
http://weaponsystems.net/weaponsystem/DD06%20-%20MGR-1%20Honest%20John.html
which is a member of the M39 series (which includes the M54)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5-ton_6x6_truck
The chassis was beefed up though, stronger axles and a few other changes just to make scratchbuilding a little bit more challenging ...



https://olive-drab.com/idphoto/id_photos_m39_missiletrk.php



The only 10-ton trucks were the M123 and M125:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M123_and_M125_10-ton_6x6_trucks

/ Robin
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Posted: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 - 12:51 AM UTC

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It is supposed to be the M139 (5 ton bridge truck)chassis:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MGR-1_Honest_John
http://weaponsystems.net/weaponsystem/DD06%20-%20MGR-1%20Honest%20John.html
which is a member of the M39 series (which includes the M54)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5-ton_6x6_truck
The chassis was beefed up though, stronger axles and a few other changes just to make scratchbuilding a little bit more challenging ...



https://olive-drab.com/idphoto/id_photos_m39_missiletrk.php



The only 10-ton trucks were the M123 and M125:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M123_and_M125_10-ton_6x6_trucks

/ Robin



Rob,
The truck next to the iron fence is the one south of me. Trust me it just looks like a modified five ton chassis. Even the drive train is heavier. It has a similar set as to the five ton, but things start to change. Somewhere on a hard drive I have about fifty photos of that truck, and need to find them again. That or take a sunny day down there. If I do get the time, I'll build a DVD for you all to share.
gary
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Posted: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 - 01:47 AM UTC
Here's a M289 walkaround on Primeportal :

http://www.primeportal.net/artillery/david_lueck/m50_honest_john_on_m289_launcher/

and here's a related thread :

http://www.ipms.us/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=131658&page=1

H.P.
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Posted: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 - 02:55 PM UTC
Hello
aftermarket compagnies will have to do new front wheels! The gun trucks , from memory, are mainly equiped with road tyres .
I have a set of Réal models wheels so i'll use thé front wheels.
Anyway, the kit of the years for me even if my Vietnam modelling interest is a bit gone.
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Posted: Thursday, April 12, 2018 - 12:24 AM UTC

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Hello
aftermarket compagnies will have to do new front wheels! The gun trucks , from memory, are mainly equiped with road tyres .
I have a set of Réal models wheels so i'll use thé front wheels.
Anyway, the kit of the years for me even if my Vietnam modelling interest is a bit gone.



we got a brand new M54 gun truck in early 69. Everything on it was new, and it came with a quad fifty mounted on it. The tires were the same all the way around. 36 Hours later it was a burnt out wreck!
gary
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Posted: Sunday, April 22, 2018 - 04:13 PM UTC
For those interest, Hobby Easy put the M54 up on pre-order today, so it can't be long now.....
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Posted: Friday, July 06, 2018 - 12:25 PM UTC
Hello, I am new to the group. I wanted to talk about the AFV M54A2 5-Ton truck. A great kit. My thoughts are this about the kit. I was an Army C64 20, Motor Transport Operator (truck driver) from 1978 to 1981. I never saw a M54 truck with drop sides. Doesn`t mean they were not around, I just never saw one. Most all M 813s had a drop side bed. Since it is easier to make the drop side bed a stationary bed instead of making a stationary bed a drop side, my thinking is could a M813 A1 5-Ton be in the works? I hope so.
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Posted: Saturday, July 07, 2018 - 02:37 AM UTC
Take a close look at the photos of the Honest John above, and you'll see the launchers are entirely different. I wonder if one is a later one with a different truck body? It looks a little different around the rear duals, especially the design of the rear fenders which look lighter than the one with the heavier launching frame. I too would love to see an Honest John launcher come out of the AFV club design group!
VR, Russ
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Posted: Saturday, July 07, 2018 - 02:46 AM UTC
Wonder how hard it would be to adapt the Renwal crane to the Afv-club kit?(just musing the difference in scale and different generation of detail is enough to put me off)

There is enough in common that the M54 could serve as a basis for an M139 bridging truck and Honest John launcher. The later South Korean tactical missile truck was also based on it.