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Posted: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 - 09:09 AM UTC

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Tom: With your Chevy 4x4 conversion, have you ever thought of doing the hood (bonnet) side panels with the "Chevrolet" embossed logo?




Hi Roy, I was thinking about it - just haven't had time yet. There's a slight curve to it at the front of the Italeri part that needs to be just right so it will fit. But it's on the list...
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Posted: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 - 10:54 PM UTC
Limes Model doesn't make any more front grills...
But if you needs help, "Rescue models" is your friend !!
Robert, who worked previouly by Limes owns now Rescue models and makes the grills....
https://rescuemodels.com/en/product-category/1-35/
Directly from the producer !...
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Posted: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 - 12:03 AM UTC
Thank you Pascal for that link.

Yes, those are the ones I have around here somewhere


And thanks to all for your continued participation and interest in this thread!



p.s. I would be up for seeing a Chevy hood with that raised lettering myself but rather than get into 3D printing, as that would be a sizable and expensive printed piece, maybe just some raised resin decals a.k.a. Archer style.

An ornate "GMC' for the older CCKW front grill and the "Chevrolet" for the Chevy ton and a half. Plus any other raised lettering this group can think of to suggest to go into a set???

Raised "Caterpiller" lettering for several dozers out there** missing that lettering. Various truck and tractor engine blocks that are right now missing their manufacture's name cast into the side????

** Make the "Cater piller" into two separate pieces to avoid the Caterpillar Logo Police.
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Posted: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 - 01:27 AM UTC
Sadly trademark is the enemy - any attempt at commercial sales of these branded parts may attract C&D orders. I haven't yet investigated whether there are appropriate resin letter sets from Archer that could be used.

Bear in mind the vent "gills" on the Chevy side panel need a re-work too - there are six narrow ones spaced tighter than the wider CCKW ones, so simply shaving off extraneous gills from the Italeri kit to leave six doesn't work. I settled for leaving the rear four on the grounds they occupy about the same space as the six Chevy ones, but for purists they all have to go, replaced by new narrow ones.
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Posted: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 - 02:01 AM UTC

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Limes Model doesn't make any more front grills...
But if you needs help, "Rescue models" is your friend !!
Robert, who worked previouly by Limes owns now Rescue models and makes the grills....
https://rescuemodels.com/en/product-category/1-35/
Directly from the producer !...
Pascal



Thanks for the updated information.

I saw in Tom’s fifth wheel single part that it can be added to the Studebacker tractor with no changes and researching I found this build that suggests only swb where tractors.
http://panzerserra.blogspot.com/2018/06/studebaker-us6-u-6-tractor-6x4-case.html?m=1

Can someone help me sort out what is correct? Is the single ICM Ford axle correct, if not what is?

TIA.

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Posted: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 - 05:31 AM UTC
Hi Ryan, that just shows how little I know about the venerable Studer! PanzerSerra's page certainly says the tractor was on the SWB 148" frame, but I can't remember if the ICM kit is SWB or LWB. I'll edit the blurb.
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Posted: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 - 05:57 AM UTC

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Hi Ryan, that just shows how little I know about the venerable Studer! PanzerSerra's page certainly says the tractor was on the SWB 148" frame, but I can't remember if the ICM kit is SWB or LWB. I'll edit the blurb.



Since he is using the ICM kit, I would think LWB.

The first picture under the U6 paragraph in Moscow 1944, looks like a straight axle but I will defer to y’all. If I have to use the U axle, I have a Zis-5 that as something similar to the ICM Ford part he used.

Tom, I don’t know work involved but a U axle if needed and rear plate would be a nice combo for folks doing a Studebaker tractor.

Speaking of the ICM kit, could the hood (bonnet) not be posed up to show the engine or am I missing something?
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Posted: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 - 11:11 AM UTC
I think the hood on the ICM kit might be positionable to reveal the engine, but the one I have is hiding deep in the stash so I can't check it at the moment. A new axle and rear crossmember could be done, but again I'd need to find my kit first...
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Posted: Thursday, September 24, 2020 - 02:39 AM UTC

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I think the hood on the ICM kit might be positionable to reveal the engine, but the one I have is hiding deep in the stash so I can't check it at the moment. A new axle and rear crossmember could be done, but again I'd need to find my kit first...



I would definitely be interested in that set. As the kit has set this long (close to a decade), it can wait a little bit longer.

I will go about getting some new tires in the near future as my kit has the wrong pattern tires.
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Posted: Friday, September 25, 2020 - 01:50 AM UTC
A new (new to me) source for very nice etched and printed dashboards for various trucks.

Yahu is from Poland and does aircraft and vehicle instrument panels.

In our case here, instrument clusters for the Chevy C15, Krupp Protze, CASE Tractor, ZIL truck and others.

Check it out! Cool stuff!

http://www.yahumodels.com/index.php/kategoria-produktu/scale-1-35/
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Posted: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 - 11:11 PM UTC
Studebaker wheels, I see Tank Workshop makes a 11 wheel set and Panzer Art makes a 12 wheel set, Goodyear and Firestone. I am thinking of making a Russian semi with the ICM kit, any insight on what might be an appropriate set for my build?

TIA
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Posted: Thursday, October 01, 2020 - 06:41 AM UTC
Here's a nice view of this rig


Full size



In British (?) service :



H.P.
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Posted: Thursday, October 01, 2020 - 07:04 AM UTC

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Studebaker wheels, I see Tank Workshop makes a 11 wheel set and Panzer Art makes a 12 wheel set, Goodyear and Firestone. I am thinking of making a Russian semi with the ICM kit, any insight on what might be an appropriate set for my build?

TIA



Sorry, not a clue. I looked for reviews online, but can't find any that might help.
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Posted: Thursday, October 01, 2020 - 08:17 AM UTC
Thanks for pics HP.

Tom, I was able to see actual pics of panzer art resin wheels at super hobby. https://www.super-hobby.com/products/Studebaker-Road-Wheels-set-Firestone.html#gallery_start
The biggest difference I saw between the Tank Workshop and Panzer Art was TW had solid inner wheel rims and PA had holes in the rims. So that leans me towards PA tires, so am I overthinking Goodyear vs Firestone or is there some thought to which might be more likely in Russian Army?
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Posted: Friday, October 02, 2020 - 12:49 PM UTC
Ordered the Goodyear tires, I am sure now someone will say I should have gone with the Firestone cause x,y,z and here is the photos. Also ordered resicast Dukw tires and Tom’s Dukw and Banjo shapeway parts.
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Posted: Saturday, October 03, 2020 - 03:35 AM UTC
Hi Ryan,

Given the volume of Lend-Lease being sent, I'm sure they got both brands. I hope you like the Resicast wheels - I did the masters for them! I'm partway through my own DUKW using the printed springs and Resicast wheels, and it's looking good. (But I'm trying to get stars on the sides and those big ribs are a real pain! Gonna take a gallon of Micro-set...). I built the axles and springs into assemblies that can be added to the hull after painting and adding the wheels - I hope it works out.
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Posted: Saturday, October 03, 2020 - 06:09 AM UTC
It might be easier to use the star to make a paper mask and airbrush. I go back and forth on the issue. I think I used Archer stars on either the 1/72 or 1/35 long ago. If you don’t have them I highly recommend the thachweave bumpers. http://thachweave.tripod.com/products.htm#Hand-woven%20Bumpers%20and%20Accessories%20for%201/35%20Models

Have you thought about making a printed A or AV frame? Doyle’s (dukw,cckw) books keep giving me ideas.
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Posted: Saturday, October 03, 2020 - 11:57 PM UTC
I'm slowly winning on those stars, but it would have been easier to mask and spray as you suggest. But I'm too far along now...

Do you mean those lifting frames seen on the rear of some DUKWs? It might be possible, but isn't there already a resin set out there? I'm sure I saw one somewhere.
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Posted: Sunday, October 04, 2020 - 12:44 AM UTC

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I'm slowly winning on those stars, but it would have been easier to mask and spray as you suggest. But I'm too far along now...

Do you mean those lifting frames seen on the rear of some DUKWs? It might be possible, but isn't there already a resin set out there? I'm sure I saw one somewhere.



I understand about the star.

I didn’t look hard but scalemates didn’t show one and Marcos says there was a rare resin set. http://panzerserra.blogspot.com/2013/04/dukw-with-crane-case-report.html?m=1
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Note the addition (probably a field mod) of the substantial "kick-back structure behind the crane legs. I suspect the rather minimal "stay rod" shown in the TM was not adequate to work in normal usage. The kick-back force on the crane legs would have been substantial if a cable should break or a sling would part and suddenly release the load.



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Posted: Wednesday, October 07, 2020 - 09:24 AM UTC
My Resicast Dukw wheels arrived today. You can see the difference side by side.


My Panzer Art Studebaker wheels also arrived. So I am a ding dong head and didn’t notice I had good wheels to start with but I noticed PA wheels are bigger.
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Posted: Wednesday, October 07, 2020 - 09:35 AM UTC
Did ICM fix their Studebaker wheels? I got one of the first issue kits and the problem was the tread lugs on both sides lined up, instead of being staggered. Viewed end-on it was very obvious. And very difficult to correct...

(And I'm impressed with the way the raised lettering came out on the castings of those Resicast wheels - it took me ages to do all that lettering in CAD!)
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Posted: Wednesday, October 07, 2020 - 09:44 AM UTC

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Did ICM fix their Studebaker wheels? I got one of the first issue kits and the problem was the tread lugs on both sides lined up, instead of being staggered. Viewed end-on it was very obvious. And very difficult to correct...

(And I'm impressed with the way the raised lettering came out on the castings of those Resicast wheels - it took me ages to do all that lettering in CAD!)



They did fix them as you can see.

The only issue I saw on the resicast wheels I have is some molding issues on the interior side on the wheel.

Anyone know what I am missing for imgur images to display and not have the hyperlink.
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Posted: Wednesday, October 07, 2020 - 09:56 AM UTC
On the Imagur question, did you click on the BB code (says something about forums) since there are several different hyperlink options? I had to paste your links into Chrome because they didn't work in IE11, but these days more and more websites no longer play well with IE11...

Interesting about those lines on the Resicast wheels - I assume they are artefacts of how the rubber mould is split to extract the wheels. Any misalignment of edges will show as scars on the casting.
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Posted: Wednesday, October 07, 2020 - 10:01 AM UTC
Mike will be interested to know that I spent a productive few hours today at the Debach Air Museum measuring and photographing every detail of their bolster truck! I've got some Challenger stuff to finish, but will in the fullness of time get round to designing the parts for a 1:35 scale conversion. But I'm worried that a 3D-printed set will be eye-wateringly expensive...

(My thanks to Richard and Gerry for their warm welcome and help at the museum.)