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Finnish Lysander
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Posted: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 07:59 AM UTC


Eduard have re-released the Gavia 1/48 scale Lysander Mk. III with Finnish markings, colour photo-etched parts and resin accessories including a ski-undercarriage.

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Posted: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 09:44 AM UTC
Hi Rowan,

Could this kit easily be turned into an RAF version?

Steve
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Posted: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 08:13 PM UTC
Hi Steve

The kit still contains the original styrene parts for an alternative carburettor intake and twin rear Brownings. The gunner's canopy is correct for a Mk. IIIa etc. and, as such, is actually incorrect for the Finnish version (thanks to Steffen for alerting me to the problem ).

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Posted: Thursday, September 18, 2008 - 06:31 AM UTC
Very nice review.

You mention the resin exhaust collector ring not being included this time around, so I dug up the product info on Eduard's site: profipack lysander
I'm a bit surprised too that they didn't include the collector ring. Well, the exhausts aren't very complicated to make from flexible vinyl tubing, but the resin part would have been a nice addition.

I remember reading some build articles about this kit in the past and people usually mentioned the need for sanding the ends of the engine cylinders to make it fit inside the cowling. I got the earlier Gavia version in my stash along with Eduard's PE set for it, and instructions of the PE set mention the need for the slight sanding. I wonder why it was left out this time, as the kit's the same?
On a Finnish modeling forum there was some conversation about the kit and it was mentioned that the flying angel markings on the fin/rudder are supposed to be silver instead of white (funny that they're correct in the Gavia version...)
Anyway, it's good to see Eduard having read their references, with each aircraft having subtly different angels, as in real life.

On one little thing I have to disagree, though. the resin machine gun included is a Lewis gun, not a Vickers K.
See:
Vickers K
Lewis gun (a replica of a slightly different variant, but you get he general idea)


I hope we'll be seeing more Finnish subjects from Eduard. (I have this utopian wish that they'll someday continue their series of American ww2 fighters with a Brewster F2A-1/B-239! )
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Posted: Thursday, September 18, 2008 - 07:40 AM UTC
Cheers Eetu

I had conflicting refs in the 4+ Publications and Mushroom books for whether a Lewis or a Vickers K was carried, and I plumped for the latter. Actually comparing the resin gun with photos (Dohh! Why didn't I just do the simple thing too?! LOL!), it definitely is a Lewis!

I'll amend the review text.

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Posted: Thursday, September 18, 2008 - 07:59 AM UTC
Hi,

According to this book on Finnish dive bombers I have, Lysanders had either a Lewis or Vickers K in the rear station.

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Posted: Friday, September 19, 2008 - 08:30 PM UTC
does anyone know if the locating holes(on the wings) for the wing struts have been put in the right position on this kit? if i remember rightly they were about 5mm out in the gavia kit.
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Posted: Saturday, September 27, 2008 - 10:34 PM UTC

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does anyone know if the locating holes(on the wings) for the wing struts have been put in the right position on this kit? if i remember rightly they were about 5mm out in the gavia kit.
paul



Hi Paul

When Eduard released the Gavia kit for their ProfiPack version, the strut locations were moved inboard slightly to correct the wing-droop that critics had picked up on (the marks of the originals are still faintly visible as a change in texture). In fact the positions on the Gavia kit match both sets of plans I have, so I rather think that it was actually the length of the struts, not where they attach, that was the issue. I'll have to take a look at the real thing when I'm up at Hendon to confirm that.

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Posted: Saturday, September 27, 2008 - 11:05 PM UTC

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[Hi Paul

When Eduard released the Gavia kit for their ProfiPack version, the strut locations were moved inboard slightly to correct the wing-droop that critics had picked up on (the marks of the originals are still faintly visible as a change in texture). In fact the positions on the Gavia kit match both sets of plans I have, so I rather think that it was actually the length of the struts, not where they attach, that was the issue. I'll have to take a look at the real thing when I'm up at Hendon to confirm that.

All the best

Rowan



Hendon? I assume that is the RAF Museum at Hendon you're talking about here? I'm going there in a few days anyway so i'll check it out. I don't remember a Lysander from previous visits, though it's been a long time.

Of course a visit to the nearby Hannants store will also be happening.

Andrew
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Posted: Saturday, September 27, 2008 - 11:17 PM UTC
Hi Andrew

It's in the Battle of Britain hall, near the V2. Ironically, I was cleaning it a month or so ago, but didn't think to check the struts. I should be up at Hendon today, but I've got a lousy cold, so I won't risk passing it on to the rest on the crew.

All the best

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Posted: Monday, September 29, 2008 - 08:19 PM UTC

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Hi Andrew

It's in the Battle of Britain hall, near the V2. Ironically, I was cleaning it a month or so ago, but didn't think to check the struts. I should be up at Hendon today, but I've got a lousy cold, so I won't risk passing it on to the rest on the crew.

All the best

Rowan



i was also up there recently....but forgot to check as well....
hmm i must look into joining hendon to help out,problem is i'm a bit busy at the moment,but i love the place.
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Posted: Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 07:03 AM UTC

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hmm i must look into joining hendon to help out,problem is i'm a bit busy at the moment,but i love the place.



Hi Paul

It would be great to see you in the Flying Ms - we can always use the help and, of course, it's an aircraft modeller's dream getting near the exhibits. One of the "little jobs" we're tackling is restoring the interior of the Halifax - there's not a lot left to do...



Hope to see you at Hendon one day, all the best

Rowan