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RAF Dispersal Pen Diorama
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Posted: Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 11:49 AM UTC


1942, somewhere in England, a small truck has just stopped in front of a dispersal pen and debarked two RAF pilots. One of them will fly an Intruder mission aboard a four 20 mm cannon equipped Hurricane over Occupied France tonight...

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Thanks!
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Posted: Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 03:21 PM UTC
Jean-Luc,

Awesome, in the traditional sense of the word, before it was over used.

-Derek
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Posted: Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 12:03 AM UTC
I think it came out well in the end. Great tie in with the past too.
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Posted: Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 02:01 AM UTC
Great job Jean-Luc, all the way around. Very well written and informative article as well. Cheers!
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Posted: Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 04:57 AM UTC
Hi Jean-Luc. Great job. Looks like a lot of hard work and it paid off. Nice build all the way around with good composition with the extra figures and models. I like the brick work. Wingman out.
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Posted: Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 10:17 AM UTC
Excellent feature Jean-Luc!
I really enjoyed watching this come together in the thread.
Now,,where did I put that box of figures?,,LOL.
Is this the start of a series of dioramas now youve got a taste for them?
Nige
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Posted: Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 10:11 PM UTC
Great job on that one, Jean-Luc. The article is very informative and I must agree that it seemed like a strange way to use the Hurricanes for this type of mission although it makes sense in theory.

Thanks for sharing
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Posted: Monday, August 06, 2007 - 07:42 PM UTC
Hi all!

Thanks for your kind comments...

I'm not 100% satisfied with the result but I guess it's the case of every serious modeler about his own work.


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Is this the start of a series of dioramas now youve got a taste for them?



Yes Nigel, I will be doing more of these. Placing an aircraft model in a diorama or on a simple base with a couple of figures really gives a second life to it. I've purchased several Mark58 display bases lately and each time I place an old model on one of them it's magic...

My next project will be an Aleutian theatre diorama with two P-39s, a P-38 and a P-40... I expect to be finished next year!

Thanks again guys!

Jean-Luc
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Posted: Monday, August 06, 2007 - 09:06 PM UTC

..it's nice to get feedback ...so I hope nobody minds if I say that one of the joys of this site/forum is logging on to admire Jean-Luc's latest creation.....super article J-L !!

cheers

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Posted: Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 10:53 AM UTC
Excellent work, will use your diorama as referance when I get brave enough to take on a project like yours.
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Posted: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - 10:08 AM UTC
This is a good diorama, and demonstrates exceptional modelling skills, but I am afraid it fails for me as so many dioramas do on the story it tells. So many times This failiure is in the planning stage, to put it quite simply when you plan a diorama you should look at the logic of the scene. I realise as someone who has many years experience working on flight lines I have an advantage on this, but most of these things are common sense.

For example on this diorama Consider the following points:

Still doing maintenance /refuelling tasks when the pilot arrives?

Believe me a RAF Aircraft Then and now, would be signed up as Servicable and ready to fly long before the "driver" appeared.

Doing maintenance on an armed aircraft?

When a Military aircraft is declared servicable and fully fuelled, Then and only then is it armed. Maintenance is forbidden on armed aircraft. (I can assure you that this was true as far back as in WW1, where no doubt sombody found out the hard way).

A tilly loaded with jerricans of fuel parked in front of an armed aircraft?

I think not! In real life somebody might find himself on a fizzer and spending some time in a warm guardroom cell if he did this.

When the pilot arrives the trolley Acc WILL be connected to the aircraft, and the trolley placed in such a way that the aircraft would have no chance of striking it when taxying out .(especially at dusk!).

I apologise in advance to the maker and imply no personal slight. I mean this as constructive criticism, I am just using this diorama as a convenient example.

But I honestly think i will go mad if I see yet another Diorama with jet aircraft loaded with live missiles in a hangar scenario!

Exasperated Selwyn!



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Posted: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - 10:22 AM UTC
Hi Steve,


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I mean this as constructive criticism, I am just using this diorama as a convenient example.



Thank you and I'm glad you found this diorama convenient to make your points. I hope I will do better next time. In fact I'm working on another diorama with a Maryland based in Malta. When the time comes I will post in progress pictures of it and I hope you can give me some useful advices.

Jean-Luc
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Posted: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - 10:55 AM UTC

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But I honestly think i will go mad if I see yet another Diorama with jet aircraft loaded with live missiles in a hangar scenario!

Exasperated Selwyn!



Well, be carefull what you wish for

I have actually seen fully fueled and armed F-15 fighters in a hangar when they were on 4 minute scramble standbye at Soesterberg AFB in the Netherlands waiting for some poor soviet plane wondering into NATO skies back in the 80's . They did not even carry any "remove before flight" tags while a heating system was keeping the engine warm.

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Posted: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - 08:41 PM UTC

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In fact I'm working on another diorama with a Maryland based in Malta.



Awesome! Looking forward to it Jean-Luc!
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Posted: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - 09:42 PM UTC
Hi Steve and Jean-Luc


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Hi Steve,


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I mean this as constructive criticism, I am just using this diorama as a convenient example.



Thank you and I'm glad you found this diorama convenient to make your points. I hope I will do better next time. In fact I'm working on another diorama with a Maryland based in Malta. When the time comes I will post in progress pictures of it and I hope you can give me some useful advices.

Jean-Luc



first let me state that Steve is probably right,

but I personally find it more important that the story(ies) on a diorama fit. That the figures interact and that the whole layout is "convenient" or convincing. I am more comfortable with Luftwaffe themes and in that area there is "nothing" that is impossible. If you think "that can't be so" someone is showing you a photograph of the real thing ... of course often the exception to the rule but nonetheless possible ....

just my 2 €ct

all the best

Steffen
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Posted: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - 10:32 PM UTC
Hi Steve

First off - welcome to Aeroscale! It's great to have you with us.

Thanks for the very useful observations - the points are well made and constructive. I agree with Steffen that you are probably correct in most circumstances, and I'll certainly bear them in mind for future builds.

Of course, what often makes things more confusing for any of us who don't have hands-on experience of servicing military aircraft is the posed nature of some wartime photos - the "Right lads! The photographer's here - everybody try to look busy!" effect. Years ago, my family used to know several ex-RAF WW2 pilots (all sadly deceased now) and I well remember one of them scoffing at some of the scenes in books - particularly propaganda shots - when I asked his advice for models.

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Friday, October 22, 2010 - 06:35 AM UTC
I think you will find that that is a QRA shed or Hardened Aircraft Shelter.

A hangar is where you take an aircraft for maintenance!

I have seen kits modelled up on jacks with missiles fitted.

Selwyn
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Posted: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 - 09:59 AM UTC

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Doing maintenance on an armed aircraft?

When a Military aircraft is declared servicable and fully fuelled, Then and only then is it armed. Maintenance is forbidden on armed aircraft.



Is it just me or did some pilots of that time look younger than others?


Nige
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Posted: Monday, November 08, 2010 - 04:19 AM UTC

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I have seen kits modelled up on jacks with missiles fitted.

Selwyn



ahh, this was ART, and free interpretation by the artist, not modelling