Wednesday, May 12, 2010 - 10:27 PM UTC
Right out of the left-field this one with a really surprising announcement from Dragon at this year's Shizuoka Show in Japan.
6640 - 7.5cm Pak 40/4 Auf RSO

No details as yet, but a pretty welcome and unexpected announcemnt. The RSO will be particularly welcomed - hopefully there will be a series of variants?
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Now this is a release that I've been waiting for from Dragon. The new Pnzr IV with DS tracks is a bummer. I'll pass. Read signature. The Pnzr III with Winterketten will be snatched up. I want individual tracks, not rubberbands. M7! Yeah baby. But the rubberbands suck.
MAY 14, 2010 - 02:53 AM
You and me both. Ive been tempted to buy the Italeri metal-cab version for a long time, but feared all the AM that was needed. Now I can wait for a while and hopefully be able to buy when Dragon eventually release it. Most interesting Dragon release in a long time!!
MAY 14, 2010 - 04:00 AM
let us hope the tracks will be sold seperatly,I still have 2 finnished Rso's without tracks waiting great stuff, hope it isn't going to be mucho dinero's ,kits are getting more expensive with every new release !
MAY 15, 2010 - 11:21 AM
YES! Me happy! J
MAY 15, 2010 - 09:14 PM
How about removing Pak and replacing it with 37 or 43 Flak??
MAY 16, 2010 - 04:01 AM
Hey, with the RSO - 3 basic versions (steel-cab/cargo bed, wood-cab/cargo bed, and a small number of the special SPG version with PaK 40) and over 28000 made, I should think the sky is near the limit on what could be done! There is some pictoral record of the Germans mounting Flak 38 and 3.7cm Flak 43 guns on the cargo version- and more than one kit out there done up to reflect this. (My personal RSO ambitions include maybe a Flak 38 or 43 mounted in a steel-cab version)... Thus, I plan on getting one of these RSO-2 with the PaK 40, and I am doing the RSO dance hoping that Dragon will follow-up with one or more other RSO that will lend themselves to becoming a flak-track!
MAY 16, 2010 - 12:08 PM
So far I've only found evidence of the 20mm being mounted on the steel cab RSO/1. This was also a "lightweight" version as I understand it, the Gebirgsflak 38, not the commonly available flak we see in kit form from many manufacturers. Be interested to see pictures of the 3.7 cm mounted on the RSO as I'm also a fan of this quirky little tractor, but not come across any so far.
MAY 21, 2010 - 11:07 PM
Alan: I see that you have un-earthed that great pic with the Gebrgs Flak 38 mount! There are a couple more pics "out there" of that particular vehicle - though I can only posit this with the sad caveat that, whilst I have seen them on the Web over the past couple of years, I neither saved them nor their location (site)! It is certes one of the cooler tricks done to an RSO- and photo'd too. Over the years, I have come across also pics of twin MG-34, a drilling mount (I believe a 1.5cm version as seen in the SdKfz 251-21) but without any shields, and maybe also a 2.0cm flak on what I thought was a naval pedestle mount. All of these are one-off field shop tricks. There are also a few pics of RSO with various guns simply packed on - which of course are also all "one-offs". I was probably overly-loose in my use of the term "mount" and "mounted"- as I had included these latter non-fixed applications in my statement, and did not mean to imply that there were either "production" or formal, refined mountings of most weapons. Sorry 'bout getting anyone's hopes up on that! My bad. Couple things come to mind- one is that there were some 28,000 of these trucks to play with, 2) there is a pretty good record showing the Germans were nothing if not adaptive and opportunistic and were seen to put all sorts of guns on any type of transporter, 3) actually, we should be amazed that we have hardly ANY photos of any of these things, as the NAZIs were pretty un-forgiving of even their own fellows taking pics of stuff, that, and later-war there was less and less opportunity to have a camera or get film or get it developed. That said- pics of any of these bits are the "where there's smoke..." indicator of a wealth more of field innovation going on! I don't actually expect Dragon or anyone else to produce kits of hardly any of these field-expediencies- though that Flak-Panther and Berge-Panther / Pz IV Turm do, to some extent, put the lie to me! Dang! wouldn't it be the bees's knees for some Big to make that rig you've posted the pic of! My position on the RSO is that we modellers are probably quite free to freak with it! So, I am thinking of placing a Flak-43 in a bed... or maybe a 3cm Flak 103/38? Or something. How about a really "last-ditch" "Mad Max" thing with a brace or 3 Panzershreck on a mount- a sort of RSO Wanze, if you will? Maybe a "Pupchen"? A good base kit is out there for all sorts of plausible stick-on weapons... what we need is the RSO on the table. Cheers!
MAY 22, 2010 - 07:10 AM
So what you are saying is you have never actually seen pictures of a 3.7 cm gun mounted in any way on an RSO but feel that because the vehicle was produced in such numbers, the Germans so inventive, that it would not be beyond the bounds of reality to see a picture of one mounted on a RSO. although we don't actually to date have one. That's fine, and as you say if you want to model one as this, its your model and you can do what you like. I've got no problem with the "what if's" that modellers like to create. It's when the distinction gets blurred or the implication that this is a model based on an actual known vehicle. No offence, but to be honest I've seen you put forward in a post about Stug 's in Normandy that implies knowledge of the subject but when shown detail and fact by Bill Plunk you've reverted to the, well although we don't have evidence its not beyond the bounds of reality to have existed etc. answer the same as you are doing here. As you say "we modellers are probably quite free to freak with it!" put a V2 rocket on the back if you want, it's your model. But most people coming to this site, I know I do, are after factual information, trying to model as accurate as possible scaled rendition of a known subject. There is nothing wrong with "what if's" unless the person putting it forward trys to credit it with something other than what it is. Alan
MAY 22, 2010 - 09:08 AM
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