I look at it this way- T-62, T-64...surely it is a progression thing like their BTR's- it would be logical to assume the T-72 and T-80 are in the pipeline...at least I really hope so !

Hi, I also wrote a message to the forum about this topic some days ago. Hmm, I really hope, that Trumpeter will rework the information of the "upgraded BTR-60", which has in my opinon (and a video) a 30mm gun and an 30mm automatic-grenade-launcher. https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/192384&page=1 greetings... Soeren

Karl, as you know I REALLY HOPE SO You're right Matt, actually both subjects would be really welcome, but T-72 was far more diffused than the T-80. A new tool of it would allows us to represent lots of variants,versions and camo schemes. Tamiya kit is good but it depicts only a quite rare Eastern German M version... cheers

any new tooled T-72 or T-80 will be just more then sweet!!!! 20 years waitting, who cares about few couple of years??? Thanks trumpeter agin

Is that turret in actual production, or is this another 'seen at one Arms show, but never bought by anyone' kind of thing. Is the turret on the BTR the same as mounted on the MTLB series? Is that turret mounted onto other vehicles? BTR-70-80? my google-fu is a bit weak this morning, and most of the BTR 60PB upgraded hits just link to wikipedia pages.. Loving the new Russian/Soviet armor Trumpeter, keep them coming. Mike

Mike- I believe the turret is a BPPU-1 which is sometimes seen on MTLB's as you said and it is also mounted as standard on the BTR-80A. It can also be mounted on the BTR-70 and some other Russian and one or two Western vehicles. It isn't a 'once at an arms show' affair either- its part of an ongoing BTR-60 upgrade program by Arzamas. Arzamas Website I don't reckon it is just your 'google-fu' either- pics and good details seem to be quite thin on the ground when it comes to this variant. Anyway, I hope this helps a bit.

Mike- I believe the turret is a BPPU-1 which is sometimes seen on MTLB's as you said and it is also mounted as standard on the BTR-80A. It can also be mounted on the BTR-70 and some other Russian and one or two Western vehicles. It isn't a 'once at an arms show' affair either- its part of an ongoing BTR-60 upgrade program by Arzamas. Arzamas Website I don't reckon it is just your 'google-fu' either- pics and good details seem to be quite thin on the ground when it comes to this variant. Anyway, I hope this helps a bit.[/quote] According to this site LINK That's a modernization project, developed by Murom diesel locomotive factory, provides for modernization of the BTR-60PB and increasing its combat capabilities to the level of modern BTR-80A Also the engine has been upgraded. Vehicle carries the 2А72 gun LINK

Mauro- thanks for that info, interesting stuff.

I remembered this link I used when I did Zvezda's BTR-80 with the BPPU-1 turret. The link was originally posted over on ML by Mikhail Mokeyev. As you can see the turret is mounted on an MT-LB, scroll down for lots of turret detail: http://twower.livejournal.com/510949.html -KARL187-