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MiniArt - Athenian Hoplite, V Centuary B.C.
Plasticbattle
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Posted: Saturday, May 19, 2007 - 11:57 PM UTC
Hello Chaps. My first real entry on Historicus Forma. Iíve had a sort of figure block, these last few years, and with the amount of new armor available, it was hard to get focused on figures again. Iíve been dropping in .... on and off ... and recently got inspired to do a figure again.
The Subject is one of the new MiniArt 1/16 figures .... Athenian Hoplite 500 BC.
I didnít take pictures of the sprues as I thought this was already reviewed, but images of the box art, artwork, sprues and decals are already presented on the MiniArt Home page.
Click here for MiniArt Homepage . Then click on Catalogue / Scale 1:16 Historical figures / Kit 16014.
John Pradarelliīs review for the Roman Legionary I Century AD could be almost taken word for word as far as reviews go. 51 parts this time with no damage as it came in the box! The important things from Johnís review is how soft the plastic is ... compared to normal plastic ... very easy to work with but one must be careful as being too heavy handed could damage the soft plastic. There is small amount of flash and mould seems to clean up, but this is really easy to deal with. Fit was pretty good overall, but cementing both sides and squeezing them together, really helps. The soft plastic squeezes out and fills most of the small gaps that could occur. Some putty was needed though for small gaps, and a touch of Mr. Surfacer covered the rest. If you donít want the clean up and build to deal with, and only have a desire to paint ... this kit is not for you. But being used to armor and 1/35 scale injection models; this was not a problem for me. The kit cost £6 and £6 for postage from the Ukraine, so a figure of this quality for £12 is a steal! My camera is dieing a slow death so please excuse the pictures below. The blueness is either reflection or just the camera taking its final breaths!! Also excuse my lack of knowledge on proper names of items. This is all new to me.

I started with the legs. Each leg was two halves and the split ran straight down the middle of each leg and between the big toe and the other four toes. This took a little effort to get right. The most apparent gap was on the backside of the "shin pads" (football term). I shaved of the plastic ridge at the back and added a new one from lead foil.


The tunic and leather strap armor(?) were assembled next. The tunic went together with no problem but the leather straps were 4 pieces and had to be fixed to the tunic sub assembly to get the shape needed. This whole assembly can be kept separate and sits nicely on the legs. Would have been great if both could have been kept separate for ease of painting.


The breastplates went together with no problems. The small catches are separate. Two of these had short shots but I placed them underneath the arms where they will be hidden. The details on the catches were a little soft and they also had some flash to deal with. The belt for the sword scabbard was made from braided lead-solder and then flattened by rolling.


The head has three parts and then four more for the hair. The sit of the hair piece looked like that .. a badly fitting wig. Four pieces for the hair seemed like too much hassle and I thought the figure would look better with the helmet down anyway.


The arms, spear, sword and shield had no major problems to build. I wrapped some lead solder around the spear as in the artwork. I also added some calibre 35 rivets to the outside of the shield. I wonít be attempting any free-hand painting, and wanted some details there before I started painting.


The back of the shield looked cool in the artwork, so I tried to mimic that. Some more lead solder was braided to look like the rope, cut and glued in place. The tassels were included in the kit ... 10 of them!


The figure is in sub-assemblies as shown above, for ease of painting, but I assembled him using blue-tack for my own curiosity and to show here. Iím pleased with how it turned out, and it should be fun to paint. Thanks for looking and please feel free to offer critic or comments ... especially if you have any ideas to offer!







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Posted: Sunday, May 20, 2007 - 01:09 AM UTC
Frank

Wow, didn't realise you did figures aswell - a real dark horse.

I've got to say, that I like the look of this build so far. I have admired these Mini-Art figures from afar for the last couple of years but have (inexplicably) put off trying one. Perhaps following this build could push me over the edge (or is that abyss?).

Just a thought to any ancient history academics out there; I think the figures skirt is possibly wrong for V Century Hellas - I thought hoplites were just as likely to dispense with extraneous clothing when fighting in the phallanx. As always, this is just my very humble opinion and I'm very ready to eat humble pie.

Keep up the very good work Frank. I'll be watching with interest.

Cheers

Karol

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Posted: Sunday, May 20, 2007 - 04:01 AM UTC

Coming along really well Frank, I like the extra detail you put on, looks good.
Keep us posted.

All the best

Vic
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Posted: Sunday, May 20, 2007 - 11:35 AM UTC
Hi Frank.

Excellent work! I really like all the extra little touches you added to the figure, like the rivets, rope and shield handle.

I believe that MiniArt have yet to tap the market with their 120mm/1:16 plastic figures. AFAIK they have recently released a Napoleonic figure as well.

Karol

With regards to MiniArt 1/16 figures... I have been fortunate to examine about 6 of them, 3 Romans and 3 other early kits. John' and Frank's assessments are spot on. Basically for 6 quid you get a very enjoyable build with minimal flash (less on the Romans than the other 3 early kits)... basically something that looks nice and is fun - but not necessarily 100% historically accurate... it's the old "you get what you pay for" addage if you follow me That said, I'm not knocking MiniArt at all. I really like their figures, and for someone wanting to get into historical miniatures without spending a fortune on a kit or figure, or if you don't want your kids handling resin or white metal, this is the way to go. I would not hesitate to recommend them.

My 0.02ZAR

Rudi
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Posted: Sunday, May 20, 2007 - 12:35 PM UTC
Hello Frank,...
Just been having a look at your wee Greek,.. Ive seen them ( the Romans ) in the shops here in Brisbane, never took a great deal of notice of them,seeing your figure, I will certainly take another look,....especially at the price they are going for..
The small additions you've done realy add to the figure, I think I will go after the three Greeks myself...

Normally I sculpt my own stuff and one tends to loose track of what is out there and mate one could play merry hell with a big stick working on these guys
thanks for posting them mate........

good stuff Phil.....
Plasticbattle
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Posted: Sunday, May 20, 2007 - 04:42 PM UTC
Hi Guys. Thanks very much for your very kind comments. Much appreciated. Regarding the skirt/tunic .... I havent the faintest. Im not really looking for complete accuracy ... I think the stance and the subject are very cool, and it will be first historical/metal armor subject. Adding the little extras was more for necessity than wanting to impress. I dont fancy free-hand painting, so adding in some details now, should make life easier later. The front of the shield really needs something else ... the decal helps, but its quite large.
Ive been admiring these Miniart figures for some time, and it was actually the Romans that really got me interested. It was one of them I was looking for actually, when I found this. The Napoleonic will definately be next .... heīs mounted so that should really be an impressive model at this scale. Its available from the same guy for £12 ..... compare this price with a normal mounted figure at this scale.
Phil .... beware buying the three of them .... theyīre basically the same figure with different weapons and decals. Although with your skills, Im sure this little hurdle will not be an issue. Cheers.
auburn
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Posted: Monday, May 21, 2007 - 02:30 PM UTC
hi Frank,...
perhaps its a bad habit, but I can't help myself,.. one must have a little" tuuttoo "
changing things mate cutting off arms,.. legs,.. heads and turning things around
allways been like this especialy with production kits,I have a little saying," Look past what you have in your hand and see what is realy there "even done this with kits that I have produced for the market in years gone by, chopped up the first one off the press and made something a little different....a one off...etc. etc.

stay outside the square...Phil..