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Price Increases!
Javlin813
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Posted: Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 05:59 AM UTC
Hi All,

I just got an email from Mark at http://www.discountmodels.com. Here is part of it:

"I just received word that there will be price increases on the following manufacturers to take effect on March 20th.

DML- The DML price increase will be significant!
Hasegawa
Concord Publications
Gunze
...I am also hearing rumors that the DML 3-in-1 kits will be discontinued. A lot of them are already sold out. This may your last chance to get them."

Has anybody else heard anything about this? I wonder what is going on with Dragon et al?

Just thought you might be interested.

Scott
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Posted: Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 08:30 AM UTC
Sure haven't. None of the other major discounters I receive info from have stated this (Great MOdels, Roll, Sprue Bros). Not to say it can't happen. Don't know why they would discontinue their 3 in 1's as they have been and continue to be huge sellers. There are some limited production kits that they made and perhaps those are what he is referring to.
Jacques
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Posted: Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 08:36 AM UTC
I know the prices at Great Models recently increased on the range of 30% with shallower discounts as well.

What is up with them?
EMT5911
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Posted: Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 08:42 AM UTC
Crude oil prices are up. Petroleum is used to make plastics, and then you need trucks to ship them. I don't know oil companies keep posting record profits driving the price of everything up. Just my 2 cents


Z.
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Posted: Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 09:06 AM UTC
I'm not surprised with any price increases. The only thing NOT going up is my salary! :-)
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Posted: Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 10:05 AM UTC
My latest Squadron flier gave me sticker shock......
Imagine almost $32.00 for a kit, I paid $2.99 for when it was first released...... Oh the inhumanity of it all.....
Think I'll just build what I got, and spring for do-dads instead......
Halfyank
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Posted: Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 10:13 AM UTC
I don't know if it's going to happen or not, but it wouldn't really surprise me. It's not unheard of for a company to have really low prices for a while, then when they capture market share increase their prices.

The one that really surprises me is Italeri. I've noticed that some of their "newer" kits, like the M4A3 are only a few bucks less than the newer DML kits, without all the extras.

Here's a thought? You figure Italeri somehow knew that DML would be raising their prices, and are pricing their new kits so when DML prices go up there would be more difference between them?

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Posted: Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 10:18 AM UTC

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Here's a thought? You figure Italeri somehow knew that DML would be raising their prices, and are pricing their new kits so when DML prices go up there would be more difference between them?



hmmmm....

Love a good conspiracy theory (though most people/companies are too disorganized to carry it out).
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Posted: Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 12:24 PM UTC
Both Spruebrothers and Great Models have listed one their home pages that there will be price increase anywhere from 5-15% on anything under the Dragon USA import - DML, Hasegawa, Concord, and a few others I believe.

- Frank
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Posted: Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 12:53 PM UTC

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...I am also hearing rumors that the DML 3-in-1 kits will be discontinued. A lot of them are already sold out. This may your last chance to get them."



Utter, total garbage.

I'm in direct contact with DML (in several different manners with various people) and NOTHING of this sort has been heard.

The price increase is CORRECT (across the board i'm afraid) I don't think it can be laid (directly) at the door of the oil increases though, transport costs have risen considerably (through the oil price rises) along with some major fluctuations between the Yuan/HKD$ and the USD$/Euro.

The quantity of petroleum products contained in a plastic kit is minimal and this WOULDN'T impact, rising transoport costs certainly do...Jim
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Posted: Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 03:38 PM UTC
It's more like Custom's fees...... MIddle man Markups.... so on.......
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Posted: Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 03:45 PM UTC

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...I am also hearing rumors that the DML 3-in-1 kits will be discontinued. A lot of them are already sold out. This may your last chance to get them."



Hmmm, sounds like a marketing trick to me...
Quick buy now, only two remaining.....(in the shop, we have hundreds in the warrehouse...

Cheers
Henk
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Posted: Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 06:10 PM UTC

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Interestingly, I know 3 of the 4 are GSI interests, hmmmm



go on then, let us in on the secret... :-) GSI? Or am I the only one again who has no idea what it's all about?


Henk
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Posted: Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 06:17 PM UTC

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Interestingly, I know 3 of the 4 are GSI interests, hmmmm



I must be dumb as well, but I have no idea what on earth you're going on about..Jim
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Posted: Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 06:22 PM UTC

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As well as AFV club and some others,



Not true. AFV Club, Hobby Fan and Skybow are owned by the same (independent) grouping...Jim
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Posted: Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 06:36 PM UTC
Anyone know how "significant" the price increase is going to be?

Thanks,

Shaun
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Posted: Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 07:13 PM UTC
A moderate retail price increase across the board is not unexpected or even unfair, at this point. Especially in Dragon's case where we normally get quite a "bang for the buck" anyway.
What really irks me is when doomsayer LHS owners try to create a furor by telling everyone the sky is falling and you'd better buy up those kits now or you'll be wanting later. I have seen that happen three times in my life and each instance was utter BS. I was almost taken in the first time when a shop owner claimed Tamiya was going full-time into RC and would be discontinuing all its injection kits. I literally saw a couple of guys, with credit cards in hand, loading up the trunk of a car with armor kits. I'm sure they had some 'splaining to do later .....
So pardon me for being a bit skeptical when it comes to your LHS claiming the hobby is going to be turned upon its ear .... I've seen the frenzy before.

Mike Kirchoff
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Posted: Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 07:40 PM UTC

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I have seen that happen three times in my life and each instance was utter BS. I was almost taken in the first time when a shop owner claimed Tamiya was going full-time into RC and would be discontinuing all its injection kits. I literally saw a couple of guys, with credit cards in hand, loading up the trunk of a car with armor kits. I'm sure they had some 'splaining to do later .....



I remember seeing the same thing. And also, how upset I was that I couldn't afford to do the same thing. :-) Thank goodness that I didn't.
Whatever happens, we can't stop it, and I have no doubt the hobby will survive. And like Grumpy, many of us can just build what we have (Yeah, like I'll do that ).
Time will tell.
Chuck
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Posted: Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 08:07 PM UTC

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I'm not surprised with any price increases. The only thing NOT going up is my salary! :-)



Salary???? You mean I'm supposed to be paid for all the hours i spend in this windowless dungeon?
18Bravo
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Posted: Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 09:13 PM UTC
Thank God for the Eastern European companies. I just purchased 5 kits from Alanger yesterday for 60% off, and got a free kit to boot. Good deals on Trumpeter kits can be had too.
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Posted: Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 09:53 PM UTC

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Here's a thought? You figure Italeri somehow knew that DML would be raising their prices, and are pricing their new kits so when DML prices go up there would be more difference between them?




Italeri had better watch it, though. I just bought their AB41 kit, and am VERY disappointed at quality/price ratio. The best thing about it so far is the unique subject. If they're going to keep the pricing trend going, they need to get the quality up to Dragon standard to match the price.
Jacques
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Posted: Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 10:09 PM UTC
Just to throw fuel on the fire, I procure and ship resin in the USA to the Ukraine for SP Designs. Well, since December, prices of resin and mailing via airmail to the Ukriane both went up on the order of 30%. I think transportation and lack of refining capacity in the USA is a major contributor, along with a fair amount of price "gouging" by over-excited middle-men.

However, my houshold income went up 3.7%. Woo-who!

And yes, the dollar sucks across the world right now...