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Kenaicop
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Posted: Thursday, November 28, 2019 - 03:29 AM UTC
https://www.snafu-solomon.com/2019/11/massive-turret-front-on-fresh.html#disqus_thread
Majekm
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Posted: Friday, November 29, 2019 - 02:29 AM UTC
I so want a 1/35 model of M1a2c/SEP V3... I guess it won't happen soon. Maybe some company such as Y-modelle will come up with a conversion set for one of the existing Abrams kits in the meantime...
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Posted: Friday, November 29, 2019 - 03:25 AM UTC
That thing is a beast. Glad to see it's in full production. So the exterior changes are: enlarged frontal turret armor, new towing brackets, hull frontal armor? It's supposed to have upgraded hull armor, is this visible? Also, I noted small fixtures (brackets?) along the bottom of the forward turret side, under the smoke grenade storage box. Are those new? If so, any idea what they are for?

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9z9c9upshVo/Xd-nbp2-hiI/AAAAAAABzkE/8S_C0ZZSw4gaX6rsXapOUxqhrGFWRMFAQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/EKalyYIW4AAMRrN.jpg


Kenaicop
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Posted: Friday, November 29, 2019 - 04:28 AM UTC
More towing stuff on rear hull too
Burik
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Posted: Friday, November 29, 2019 - 05:14 AM UTC

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That thing is a beast. Glad to see it's in full production. So the exterior changes are: enlarged frontal turret armor, new towing brackets, hull frontal armor? It's supposed to have upgraded hull armor, is this visible? Also, I noted small fixtures (brackets?) along the bottom of the forward turret side, under the smoke grenade storage box. Are those new? If so, any idea what they are for?







Those are mounting blocks for ERA. They have been around for several years now. You can see them on different variants, even the M1A1 SA tanks.
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Posted: Friday, November 29, 2019 - 05:14 AM UTC
[quote]That thing is a beast. Glad to see it's in full production. So the exterior changes are: enlarged frontal turret armor, new towing brackets, hull frontal armor? It's supposed to have upgraded hull armor, is this visible? Also, I noted small fixtures (brackets?) along the bottom of the forward turret side, under the smoke grenade storage box. Are those new? If so, any idea what they are for?

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9z9c9upshVo/Xd-nbp2-hiI/AAAAAAABzkE/8S_C0ZZSw4gaX6rsXapOUxqhrGFWRMFAQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/EKalyYIW4AAMRrN.jpg

Mounting blocks for TUSKII frames.
system
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Posted: Friday, November 29, 2019 - 08:28 AM UTC

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More towing stuff on rear hull too



- some kind of armored conduit that runs behind the driver's hatch down to the RH mudguard
- The left rear upper hull and area around the LH rear light is different too, with a 'slot' under the light
- beefed-up upper rear tow hooks
- extended mudguards

Taking bets for the first plastic kit...
Kenaicop
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Posted: Friday, November 29, 2019 - 11:54 AM UTC
Yes, that slit, Iíve seen it before. Screw it, Iím building one, I have a half built Academy SEP V2 that I can start on, and Blast makes a Low Profile Crows. You all can thank me later, as soon as I finish this, someone will produce one 😛

https://vietbao.vn/The-gioi/Ben-trong-nha-may-san-xuat-sieu-xe-tang-M1A2-SEP-V3-cua-My/120986627/860/
Majekm
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Posted: Friday, November 29, 2019 - 02:57 PM UTC

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Yes, that slit, Iíve seen it before. Screw it, Iím building one, I have a half built Academy SEP V2 that I can start on, and Blast makes a Low Profile Crows. You all can thank me later, as soon as I finish this, someone will produce one 😛



Yes, Yes! Please make sure you post a detailed build log here. I was really hoping someone would try to build one with the kits we have available currently. The geometry of the turret front is quite complex, so may be a challenge. I will definitely follow your wip with great interest. And Yes, after you build it and a plastic kit comes out, people like me with no skills, will be able to get one too. Thank you, Sir!
Kenaicop
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Posted: Saturday, November 30, 2019 - 05:21 AM UTC
No blog, in case things go south on me, but Iíll definitely post some pics as I go along, Iím thinking hardest part will be blending in the front turret armor and making the new towing or tie down points, making them all identical
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Posted: Saturday, November 30, 2019 - 10:48 AM UTC

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No blog, in case things go south on me, but Iíll definitely post some pics as I go along, Iím thinking hardest part will be blending in the front turret armor and making the new towing or tie down points, making them all identical



Understood. But please do post photos from time to time. I am really interested to see how it comes out. You will probably need to add some thickness to the front hull as well...
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Posted: Sunday, December 01, 2019 - 05:57 AM UTC
sorry guys donít know how to link without thumbnails...



Another of front tow hooks and turret armor.

But this one has me asking, did the turret get wider too? Or is this just a more finished weight to simulate the new armor?









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Posted: Sunday, December 01, 2019 - 06:07 AM UTC
Cool, I stole that top pic from you, bottom pics looks like a test vehicle. But, tell me more about that M48 you have in your own pics 😛
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Posted: Sunday, December 01, 2019 - 06:35 AM UTC

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More towing stuff on rear hull too



- some kind of armored conduit that runs behind the driver's hatch down to the RH mudguard
- The left rear upper hull and area around the LH rear light is different too, with a 'slot' under the light
- beefed-up upper rear tow hooks
- extended mudguards

Taking bets for the first plastic kit...



I'm guessing that armored conduit is for routing controls to an installed mine blade or roller. Also, those mounts on the front look like they could be part of a new mine blade system.
JmeDubya
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Posted: Sunday, December 01, 2019 - 06:36 AM UTC
My first try at modifying a dragon M48a3 into a M48a5 for the Cal Guard... before there was a kit for it.

I really like the collapsible bladders and your USMC A1 in your gallery too!

👍🏻

Ok this looks easier... a few of details for new M1A2Cs photographed at Lima.

https://imgur.com/gallery/5H7uSEb
Kenaicop
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Posted: Sunday, December 01, 2019 - 07:50 AM UTC
But, theyíre on the rear hull too 🤷🏻‍♂️


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More towing stuff on rear hull too



- some kind of armored conduit that runs behind the driver's hatch down to the RH mudguard
- The left rear upper hull and area around the LH rear light is different too, with a 'slot' under the light
- beefed-up upper rear tow hooks
- extended mudguards

Taking bets for the first plastic kit...



I'm guessing that armored conduit is for routing controls to an installed mine blade or roller. Also, those mounts on the front look like they could be part of a new mine blade system.

Kenaicop
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Posted: Sunday, December 01, 2019 - 07:53 AM UTC
Iíve got those pics, but still collecting. Probably wonít really get around to doing anything for a few weeks. Iíve already got the turret TUSK mounting brackets on the academy kit, Iíll try and post some pics. Funny thing about my fuel bladders, I built them, they came out so nice I had to buy and build a kit to put them on. Made out of lead foil








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More towing stuff on rear hull too



- some kind of armored conduit that runs behind the driver's hatch down to the RH mudguard
- The left rear upper hull and area around the LH rear light is different too, with a 'slot' under the light
- beefed-up upper rear tow hooks
- extended mudguards

Taking bets for the first plastic kit...



I'm guessing that armored conduit is for routing controls to an installed mine blade or roller. Also, those mounts on the front look like they could be part of a new mine blade system.

JmeDubya
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Posted: Sunday, December 01, 2019 - 09:14 AM UTC
Mounting brackets look awesome.
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Posted: Sunday, December 01, 2019 - 02:07 PM UTC
The M1A2 SEP Version FOUR will be the major enhancements version with new ammunition, Active Protection Systems (APS as standard? I don't know), new FLIR and thermal imaging sensors with higher resolution, and the much anticipated (and finally time), the laser warning (lase) receivers.

I don't totally agree with the SEP V2 and V3 upgrades as I strongly believe that the M1A2 SEPs need a new turret just like the Leopard 2 Next Generation MBT. Why strip, rework, and rewire when a brand new turret could be made and plunked in? This just adds to time and labor costs.

To answer SNAFU, so far the LCACs can't really carry a 70-ton M1A2 SEPV3 unlike the Ship to Shore Connectors (SSCs) which can, so I doubt the USMC will hop aboard until they get the SSCs.

The US Marines can benefit from the MPF and NGCV if they come into service.

It really is nice to see the M1A2 SEPV3s though (and I may sound like a hypocrite with the new turret comments above) because it is time to upgrade to meet the latest threats and one problem with NATO is that their modern MBTs are failing due to lack of spare parts and maintenance. The US Army and USMC don't let this happen because the depot upgrades are still ongoing and getting funded.

So for me, personally, I'd pass on the M1A2 SEPV3 model kit and wait for the M1A2 SEPV4 because of my first paragraph. The V4 should look vastly different than the V3 with the APS and other features that may change the exterior.
Kenaicop
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Posted: Monday, December 02, 2019 - 05:25 AM UTC
The more pics of this tank I find, the more things I see. Anyone notice the front of the turret, right where the mantlet protrudes, is flat, or flush? All sorts of funky angles along the bottom of the turret too, near the mantlet and on the left side near the smoke grenade box.
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Posted: Monday, December 02, 2019 - 11:12 AM UTC
With all the upgrades going on, meaning more weight, has the suspension & power plant been upgraded too? I do hope so !
New towing gear set ups, that sounds like they are anticipating problems.
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Posted: Wednesday, December 04, 2019 - 05:30 AM UTC
Judging from the pics, I think the turret armor is about 3 mm or 1/8 inch. It`s only tricky to get the angles on the armor.
Hmmm, maybe Robert Skipper can get to a v3 soon?
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Posted: Wednesday, December 04, 2019 - 10:47 AM UTC

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Judging from the pics, I think the turret armor is about 3 mm or 1/8 inch. It`s only tricky to get the angles on the armor.
Hmmm, maybe Robert Skipper can get to a v3 soon?



I have the tank pulled out and Iíll probably start cutting styrene sometime this week or after the weekend. Still got kids here from thanksgiving. Weíll see how this turns out. Iíd love to have pics of the turret top to see whatís going on up there. Probably order the Low Profile CROWS today too.
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Posted: Friday, December 06, 2019 - 02:47 AM UTC

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Judging from the pics, I think the turret armor is about 3 mm or 1/8 inch. It`s only tricky to get the angles on the armor.
Hmmm, maybe Robert Skipper can get to a v3 soon?





Itís much thicker then I thought
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Posted: Friday, December 06, 2019 - 07:55 AM UTC
Some progress. My plan is to extend the turret face out, blend it in, then add another thinner plate and shape all the angles out. Iíve also started making the tie down brackets. I also noticed the existing tie downs have been beefed up and thickened. Just ordered the LP CROWS too.