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Artesania Latina Cutty Sark
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Posted: Sunday, March 22, 2020 - 07:38 AM UTC
Hi all was about to start on the fore mast, but then thought I better sort all the lower stuff before going in an upwards direction.

So first I thought about the problem of doing the portholes heres my answer to getting them all in the right place.











Then to  do the rudder.






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Posted: Sunday, March 22, 2020 - 09:59 AM UTC
oh no! The dreaded dive to the floor!

And with shag-pile carpeting no less!

You are fortunate in that you are able to lift the rug and shake it out, Ken. Imagine if it was a fixed carpet!

My wife and I made the decision some time ago to do away with carpets and just have floorboards, so the problem is more now that when stuff drops, it bounces away into the unknown!

Accidents notwithstanding the Cutty is looking really fine!
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Posted: Sunday, March 22, 2020 - 11:12 PM UTC
Ken,

Great idea on aligning those portholes. The craftsmanship on the rudder assembly is wonderful.

Mark
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Posted: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 - 09:10 AM UTC
Hi all started in an upwards direction, there is so much more to do on this mast.





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Posted: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 - 03:14 PM UTC
The rudder and its pintles looks great! The brass contrasting against the dark wood really stands out. Same with the portholes.

Tim
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Posted: Friday, March 27, 2020 - 12:02 AM UTC
Interesting that you've taken pics in the bathroom Ken.

You're not playing with the Cutty in the bath tub are you?
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Posted: Sunday, March 29, 2020 - 05:03 AM UTC
Great work and progress, Ken!
She looks splendid!

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Posted: Sunday, March 29, 2020 - 07:14 AM UTC
Hi all continuing to plod on with this





Made a start on the main mast.




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Posted: Sunday, March 29, 2020 - 02:39 PM UTC
"Plodding" at a nice quick pace, Ken
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Posted: Monday, March 30, 2020 - 12:02 AM UTC
Ken,

Nice progress. Seems to be getting serious now with addition of the other mast and prep work for rigging.

I just finished watching Harry Houdini webpage on his HMS Bounty build and he made a great point on how rigging is 90% prep work and 10% application.

Enjoying your build.

Mark
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Posted: Wednesday, April 01, 2020 - 08:00 AM UTC
Started on a small amount of rigging.





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Posted: Thursday, April 02, 2020 - 06:46 AM UTC
I am totally confused with building the yards on this I dont know which bits to use the instructions are pretty much useless assuming you know what bits are what.

I've tried googling for detail of them and all the pics that come up are either too blurred to see or are from behind the mast help please anyone got a picture of the built yard on this kit.
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Posted: Thursday, April 02, 2020 - 10:06 PM UTC

Quoted Text

I am totally confused with building the yards on this I dont know which bits to use the instructions are pretty much useless assuming you know what bits are what.

I've tried googling for detail of them and all the pics that come up are either too blurred to see or are from behind the mast help please anyone got a picture of the built yard on this kit.



Can you post a photo of the instructions? And point out which bits are causing you problems?
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Posted: Friday, April 03, 2020 - 01:14 AM UTC
Very nice work nevertheless, Ken!

I'd suppose Tim is a good one to got to with problems on yards and rigging...and confusing instructions most of all...

Cheers

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Posted: Friday, April 03, 2020 - 06:44 AM UTC
Hi Tim here are the instructions
First the photo of all the parts needed

As you can see they show nothing helpful.
Just to explain there are no pictures of the parts to go with the numbers the instructions just say what the part is.
Next the line drawings (which are bigger and more understandable but still the parts are just numbered no pictures)

Lastly the actual parts.

I know what the half moon type thingy is and I'm guessing the round bit with the notch in it is the bit the mooney bit slots into the bit with the with the large and small holes I assume is for the yard extending bits that are for the outrigger sails, am I right.
I've added the first sails.

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Posted: Saturday, April 04, 2020 - 05:33 AM UTC
Ken,

Quoted Text

Hi Tim here are the instructions
First the photo of all the parts needed
As you can see they show nothing helpful.
Just to explain there are no pictures of the parts to go with the numbers the instructions just say what the part is.



So there's no parts index or anything? Aren't any of the parts labelled?



Quoted Text

Next the line drawings (which are bigger and more understandable but still the parts are just numbered no pictures)

I know what the half moon type thingy is and I'm guessing the round bit with the notch in it is the bit the mooney bit slots into the bit with the with the large and small holes I assume is for the yard extending bits that are for the outrigger sails, am I right.



Yes, I would agree with your last statement.

For what's is worth, these are my comments & observations:

Part 109 are large eyebolts.

Part 372 is the footrope - I find it odd that they would actually label the footrope with a part number, unless it's a pre-cut footrope, and not something you have to fabricate.

Part 348 look to be single blocks, or maybe a ring.

Part 416 looks to be either a double block, or a single becket block.

Part 415 looks to be a stirrup for the foot rope (part 372).
However, part 415 is only pointed out once in the line drawing, but several times in the color photo in the instructions.

Part 407 looks to be "the round bit with the notch in it".

Part 409 is probably a part with a ring on one end, and then the shaft is bent 90 degrees.

I'm curious, since this is a wood model, and therefore, parts aren't molded onto a sprue, how did AL box all these little pieces? Is everything just thrown into a couple of small plastic bags? (If I recall, you inherited this model in a half-built state, so if all these little parts are just strewn about, I understand).

Anyway, I hope this little bit helps. And for sure, if you run into more problems, ask away, I'll see what I can do.

Cheers,

Tim
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Posted: Saturday, April 04, 2020 - 07:46 AM UTC
Hi Tim the parts are in a plastic box with divisions (several parts in each division)
Thanks for the info.

I've made a start on the first yard .




Even with the blocks and such the instructions just say stuff like 4mm block but there are 3 types of 4mm blocks(depending on where you measure them) some with 2 holes in some with one, there is a lot of guess work in this kit.
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Posted: Sunday, April 05, 2020 - 07:23 AM UTC
Hi all finished the first yard.




And before I get comments about the order I'm building this in I know it's not per instructions but hey they are pretty useless anyway.

I've added the first real sail.






I know it will get in the way of a lot of the rigging but I intend to tie it up out of the way temporarily. I know the lines from the base of the sail which go toward the stern will get in the way but I will leave them till last. 

Apart from the instructions i really like this kit (yes I know it's not an accurate depiction of the Cutty Sark)

It will still be a lovely model of a clipper ship anyway.
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Posted: Monday, April 06, 2020 - 12:26 AM UTC
Ken,

She is coming along nicely. I thought you would have installed all of the mast stays before adding the yardarms and sails.

Mark
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Posted: Monday, April 06, 2020 - 07:14 PM UTC

Quoted Text

Hi Tim the parts are in a plastic box with divisions (several parts in each division)
Thanks for the info.

I've made a start on the first yard .




Even with the blocks and such the instructions just say stuff like 4mm block but there are 3 types of 4mm blocks(depending on where you measure them) some with 2 holes in some with one, there is a lot of guess work in this kit.



Hi Ken,

Well, you sure don't let any grass grow under this build! Your yardarm looks perfect; it would have taken me several hours, over several days, to get something looking that good!!

You're right about putting in the rigging on the outermost edge of the sail until last (BTW, that's probably the sheet line; there are also some lines that attach to the ends of the yards, and those lines are known as braces). It's a bit like painting - start on the inside, and work your way out.

Carry on!

Tim
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Posted: Monday, April 06, 2020 - 07:28 PM UTC
Ken, that rigging is a pan's labyrinth if ever there was one
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Posted: Saturday, April 11, 2020 - 06:37 AM UTC
Hi all bit more done got the coppering room done (changed the top door as using the kit one and adding the embellishments made the door ridiculously thick) and the central ward room also more rigging on the sail (probably doesn't even notice) but it's there 








You cant really tell but some swearing was involved in the practically invisible rigging you cant even see on the sails.






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Posted: Sunday, April 12, 2020 - 02:41 PM UTC
Ken,

Nice.

Mark
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Posted: Monday, April 13, 2020 - 08:13 AM UTC
Made one of the ships launches and added some upper shrouds.
















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Posted: Monday, April 13, 2020 - 09:50 AM UTC
Looking good Ken