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G-man69
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Posted: Monday, April 06, 2020 - 03:38 AM UTC
Hi Cheyenne and Tim,

I have to say that your 'common language' banter had me chuckling, . As for filling out his 'dumper'...not sure if that will get past the censors as it sounds so wrong, ...I have a lot of filling and sculpting of gaps and their corresponding missing clothing, .

Tim, like the YouTube clip, seen those two dancing to other tracks, wish I could move like that guy, but I think I'd slip a disc...or worse, .

Thanks both for the feedback, and the laugh, cheers, ,

G
G-man69
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Posted: Monday, April 06, 2020 - 03:43 AM UTC
Hi Erwin,

Thanks for the kind feedback, . As to putting myself down, I'm not, I just know my limitations, .

As to painting 40 figures, I'm not sure which would drive me more insane, that or trying to model Tim's massive 'cobbles'...again that sounds so wrong, .

Cheers, ,

G
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Posted: Monday, April 06, 2020 - 03:54 AM UTC
Hi all,

I have roughed-out the last two figures, it's meant to be one crew member collecting some of the chopped wood for a fire, that will be manned by his comrade who will be getting a brew on (see images below).









Again, I will need to fill the gaps left by 'juggling' the stock pieces into the sort of position I wanted to achieve. As well as filling to blend in with the rest of the uniform I will have to try and sculpt the lower half and arms of the pixie suit for the seated guy as the corresponding parts are from a non-tanker figure.

And yes, I have a couple of 'bottoms' to round off, .

Cheers, ,

G
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Posted: Monday, April 06, 2020 - 04:50 AM UTC

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Hi Tim,

Thank you for the positive feedback, it's much appreciated, .

Not sure why modelling a figure taking a leak would be considered offensive, but then there's nowt so queer as folk, ...but thanks for the heads-up. Least now I know that I might get some grief if I decide to flow down that particular stream, forewarned is foreskinned, .

Thanks for the suggestion re. the scorched grass, that thought had crossed my mind but I decided against it as, in my eyes, I've sort of modelled the damage as if its been like it for some period of time. So, in all likelihood any burnt grass would have been grown over...least that's how I imagined it would be, .

This is only my second build that has come anywhere near completion and is really an attempt at practising techniques and trying to develop a 'style'. More of an experiment as opposed to having an end goal, however, that said, I have always thought that I would show the crew in more of a relaxed state...hence my thoughts on a brew, .

Thanks again for taking the time to give support and advice, .

Cheers, ,

G



Gareth,

'Just catching up with this project; very nice indeed!

As regards bodily functions (Oooh Matron!) if anyone took a leak or worse, more solid relief in the vicinity of my vehicle ie that close, he'd be having an interview without coffee front and centre pretty damn quick!

Perhaps the far side of the wall, "Yes" but not where, apart from brewing up/eating your crew might also be planning to sleep, definitely a "No No". As usual, just my immediate thoughts.

Keep up the good work; your Conqueror seems a long time ago now!

Brian
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Posted: Monday, April 06, 2020 - 09:35 PM UTC
Nice figure placement G , logical and spaced for the eye to peruse the whole scene first , then look closer at each aspect .

Cool !!
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Posted: Tuesday, April 07, 2020 - 05:19 AM UTC
Hi Brian,

Always means a lot to get positive feedback from you, thank you, .

And you know what I'm going to say next, ...stop hiding your talent away, you're always so supportive of others, it's about time you let others see how good your work is, and get some deserved praise, .

As for a bollocked micturater, I decided this time not to, but I might in the next one as it's likely going to be a snowy scene...maybe he'll write his name, .

Thanks again, and cheers, ,

G
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Posted: Tuesday, April 07, 2020 - 05:24 AM UTC
Hi Cheyenne,

Thanks for the positive feedback, your continued support and ideas are much appreciated. Though if I'm honest, the figure placement is more by luck than design as I had no idea of what the scene would be about, .

I have changed the legs on the guy carrying the wood as he looked a bit awkward 'movement-wise', but he will be positioned in the same place.

Thanks again, and cheers, ,

G
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Posted: Tuesday, April 07, 2020 - 05:27 AM UTC

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Hi Brian,

Always means a lot to get positive feedback from you, thank you, .

And you know what I'm going to say next, ...stop hiding your talent away, you're always so supportive of others, it's about time you let others see how good your work is, and get some deserved praise, .

As for a bollocked micturater, I decided this time not to, but I might in the next one as it's likely going to be a snowy scene...maybe he'll write his name, .

Thanks again, and cheers, ,

G



Gareth,

You're too kind yet make a good point; I really should make an effort.

One of the first rules of Artic warfare; "Don't eat yellow snow!"

Anyway, keep at it.

Brian
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Posted: Tuesday, April 07, 2020 - 05:52 AM UTC

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Hi Erwin,

Thanks for your continued feedback and support, and glad you think it looks more interesting, .

As for what I'm trying to depict, well...as mentioned above to Tim...I have no hard-and-fast goal as to the end result. That said, now both you and Tim have asked, its made me think that I do need to give some thought as to what I do with the crew, .

To be honest, I've sort of been avoiding that as I'm not great at modelling and painting figures, .

Cheers, ,

G



I never thought I would get this far, with painting figures eiter, but when I first tried this was the result:


Honestly, this was my very first try...
With patience, good brushes, a Vallejo flesh painting set and logical thinking about the build up of layers (dark to light), you'll get this...
This has been my first guide: http://ampscv.org/tutorials/2012-01-vallejo-flesh-tones.pdf

In the mean time... Keep up the good work...
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Posted: Tuesday, April 07, 2020 - 08:46 AM UTC
@Erwin, that a real nice face first time or not.

Here are some simple how toís I like G.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GxK8vvzLGD4

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=no2zBike6Q0&index=2&list=PLm1Y2M6A4N-KhrfwVodOryD8feDESGByp

What I have found useful is using a wet palette and mixing a little water with Vallejo paints to make things easier.
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Golikell
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Posted: Tuesday, April 07, 2020 - 08:08 PM UTC

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@Erwin, that a real nice face first time or not.

Here are some simple how toís I like G.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GxK8vvzLGD4

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=no2zBike6Q0&index=2&list=PLm1Y2M6A4N-KhrfwVodOryD8feDESGByp

What I have found useful is using a wet palette and mixing a little water with Vallejo paints to make things easier.



Than you for the kind words.
I found that using a wet pallette indeed aids very much to the mixing and painting. Thank you for reminding...
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Posted: Tuesday, April 07, 2020 - 10:48 PM UTC

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Than you for the kind words.
I found that using a wet pallette indeed aids very much to the mixing and painting. Thank you for reminding...



No problem.

@G, I know I am not trying to put you hock with this diorama and buying more tools. Well maybe I am if judged by my posts. I picked a P3 wet palette many many years ago a club as someone was giving it away and didnít use it till last year. Heck didnít even know what the box or how to use it. You can make your own at home. My box has foam as the base material.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zCjGtJvUYsE

HTH
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Posted: Monday, April 13, 2020 - 04:43 AM UTC
Hi Brian,

Sorry for the delay in responding, been trying to make the most of the good weather these last few days.

Thanks for the kind words, and I look forward to seeing the results of you really making an effort, .

Cheers, ,

G
G-man69
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Posted: Monday, April 13, 2020 - 04:46 AM UTC
Hi Erwin,

Again, sorry for the delay in responding.

That's an excellent first try at face painting, I'd be happy if that was my norm, yet alone a first attempt, .

Thank you for the link, I've downloaded it and will give it a try, .

Cheers, ,

G
G-man69
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Posted: Monday, April 13, 2020 - 04:55 AM UTC
Hi Ryan,

Again my apologies for not responding sooner. It's good to see you back, you'd been a tad quiet...how goes your multitude of builds?

Thanks for the YouTube links, I think they will be very useful, .

As for putting me in 'hock', so far your recommendations have been very well received, though sneaking any purchases past swmbi (she who must be ignored) is getting harder since the COVID 19 lockdown...she's always around when the postie comes a calling, . As an aside, thanks to any posties that might use this site, and thanks to posties worldwide for continuing to deliver any goodies we purchase from online retailers...and thanks to those retailers too, .

Cheers, ,

G
G-man69
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Posted: Monday, April 13, 2020 - 05:20 AM UTC
Hi all,

Not managed to get much done these last few days due to being outside making the most of the good weather...without breaking any government guidelines in place during these difficult times, .

What little work I have achieved has been centred around filling in all the big gaps left between the various parts used to create my Cromwell crew.

Below is one of the figures that is almost ready to paint 'properly'...term used loosely, .









Apart from filling gaps and adding folds, I've also had to 'build-up' the left arm to look more like a 'pixie' suit, as opposed to the standard British infantry uniform.

Below is the same figure with a rough coat of paint, hopefully this will allow me to see where I need to clean-up and rework some of the detail, .









Has anyone else mixing small amounts of 'milliput', . I'm mixing tiny amounts, but ensuring, as best I can, that it's equal parts but it's not curing properly...though I guess when using such small amounts even small deviations have a big impact, .

I've checked online and it says that the unmixed product has a shelf life of approximately 2yrs, and I've had this box only about 12 months, though I have no idea how long it might have been 'on the shelf' prior to me purchasing it, .

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated, cheers, ,

G
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Posted: Monday, April 13, 2020 - 09:17 AM UTC

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Hi Ryan,

Again my apologies for not responding sooner. It's good to see you back, you'd been a tad quiet...how goes your multitude of builds?

Thanks for the YouTube links, I think they will be very useful, .

As for putting me in 'hock', so far your recommendations have been very well received, though sneaking any purchases past swmbi (she who must be ignored) is getting harder since the COVID 19 lockdown...she's always around when the postie comes a calling, . As an aside, thanks to any posties that might use this site, and thanks to posties worldwide for continuing to deliver any goodies we purchase from online retailers...and thanks to those retailers too, .

Cheers, ,

G



G,

I have slacking on my builds. Glad yours is going well. Need to get going again, the paint barn is backing up. Glad to hear the links and tools are useful. Canít help with the other problem. Mine gave me the side eye today when the post lady dropped off a mateís kit. Might have to wait till the middle of the week to make another hobby order. Two in a week will get her feisty and I got no place to go. 😂 Cannot help with the millput issue either.
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Posted: Monday, April 13, 2020 - 10:53 PM UTC
Hi G.

No worries. Everything in due time...
The figure looks great. Love the facial features. With time and care, this will turn out to be a very good figure.
G-man69
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Posted: Saturday, April 18, 2020 - 05:18 AM UTC
Hi Ryan,

Like you, I have been slacking a tad, the weather has been too nice to stay indoors all day, but today wasn't so good, so got a small amount done, ...hopefully you have managed to get back into the swing of things, ?

Our good ladies don't understand us, buying bits and bobs regularly keeps us out of mischief...least that's what I tell mine, .

Cheers, ,

G
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Posted: Saturday, April 18, 2020 - 05:19 AM UTC
Hi Erwin,

Thanks for the positive feedback, .

Cheers, ,

G
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Posted: Saturday, April 18, 2020 - 05:31 AM UTC
Hi all,

Having found a bit of time, after a few days break, to revisit my build I found that I really did not like the look of all the straw coloured long grass, ...it was too uniform, and stuck out (no pun intended) on the scene like a sore thumb.

So I decided to paint it (see images below), amazing how that managed to kill a good few hours, .















Cheers, ,

G
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Posted: Saturday, April 18, 2020 - 10:13 PM UTC
Nice G , yes it does look better , the colors now flow together .
That tanks still knocks me out , beautiful !!
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Posted: Sunday, April 19, 2020 - 01:48 AM UTC
I also think t's a big improvement,
J
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Posted: Tuesday, April 21, 2020 - 01:01 AM UTC
Yep good decision it all looks even better now - maybe the ivy could stand a dusting to turn the intensity down a tad?Öbut Iíd be too scared to mess with it, looks fine as is. If youíre still worried about the figure painting you could always slip some test shots into the Constructive Crit forum when nobodyís looking Ė itís not my strongest suit either but Iím sure JR & others could lend a hand