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1/35 Hunting Hetzer
Namabiiru
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Posted: Saturday, April 13, 2019 - 10:28 PM UTC

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If I may Add my 2 cents worth,Your paint has a fighting chance. With a light over-spray of lighter colors & an overall wash of the battlefield, oils & stains it would look killer. No armor I ever saw was perfect. 4 years in the marines 76/81



I'm with Danny on this.

cheyenne
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Posted: Saturday, April 13, 2019 - 08:56 PM UTC
Doc , I'm here to talk you down off the ledge .
You've put a lot of work into this build and it deserves a shot at redemption , which in itself is a learning experience .
All these fine people here have given you suggestions on how to remedy your situation , why , because I'm sure like myself we've all screwed up a build or two in the past .

Do your very best to correct this , take your time you can do this !!
As far as the paints go , I can't comment on them because I've never used them , ........ however I have used a " last resort " modeling tool to deal with products that don't live up to their name ......................

PanzerKarl
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Posted: Saturday, April 13, 2019 - 08:02 PM UTC
Don't know why people keep on using Mig ammo paints there horrid.
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Posted: Saturday, April 13, 2019 - 03:20 PM UTC
If I may Add my 2 cents worth,Your paint has a fighting chance. With a light over-spray of lighter colors & an overall wash of the battlefield, oils & stains it would look killer. No armor I ever saw was perfect. 4 years in the marines 76/81
Dioramartin
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Posted: Saturday, April 13, 2019 - 02:34 PM UTC
Bummer - but if you consider the paint-job a total write-off, before trying to remove it I'd experiment with remedial measures first in case they work. Maybe patch the worst bits & then thin fading washes to see what happens. The real thing's paint job wouldn't have got into an art gallery either.
GazzaS
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Posted: Friday, April 12, 2019 - 09:28 PM UTC

Sad result, Mate. I do understand.

Gaz
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Posted: Friday, April 12, 2019 - 08:03 PM UTC
This is a real shame, after all that work... Let me just say that I can empathize with your situation. All is not lost though. With some careful wet-sanding, you can get your model smoothed out enough to take new paint. This will be a tedious and laborious process, but if you have patience, a reasonable new painting surface CAN be achieved.

I would suggest re-spraying a new primer-coat onto the model, using an AUTO PAINT PRIMER. These are usually formulated of petroleum-based compositions. After all has dried properly, (at the very least, 48-72 hours), re-spray your camo-scheme by USING PROPERLY-STIRRED AND THINNED ENAMEL PAINTS...

Yours is a CLASSIC EXAMPLE of what can go wrong with ACRYLICS, which is why I don't use them, except for my LIFECOLOR Figure-painting sets... I DON'T LIKE ACRYLICS, and I absolutely HATE THINNED-DOWN OILS for creating those messy "overall washes" that can also RUIN a well-built model. I've been building, detailing and painting models for over 61 years, so I think that I can speak from EXPERIENCE...
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Posted: Friday, April 12, 2019 - 08:03 PM UTC

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Nice! Was it this kit, or the earlier release?



It was the Testors/Italeri kit released in about 1980.

vr

Tim






Oh nice, Revell still sell that kit!

I've had a decent weekend of work, and am nearly ready for paint!









I'm pretty pleased with the dented effect on the muffler, just done with a round file.

The shurzen are just barely hanging on from some small rods drilled into the side, but when glued into place should sit flush against the hull.

The wheels have been super-glued into place so can be easily snapped off for paint, but will hold strong enough to get the tracks done. I've kept the hull in 2 separate parts to make the track assembly easier:



I've added a small power conduit to the notek light and assembled it to look like it has been knocked slightly to the left as can be seen in many pictures:



The jackblock supplied with the kit seems to have the metal straps indented, with the wood swollen up over them. I have seen this in some pictures caused perhaps by moisture getting into the block but it looks very wrong to me. I used the PE upgrades and some balsa to make a new one:





I've left a few of the small details off for painting:



I've also put the tool box together, opting for the PE option and I wanted it to be partially open and Tamiya doesn't give that option:





Thanks for looking, hopefully with have some paint on it soon!

~ Steve



The Italeri Hetzer is from 1974
DrChopp
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Posted: Friday, April 12, 2019 - 07:38 PM UTC
Alrighty, well I got the J's Work pre-cut masks, and they were very good. BUT - here is how it currently stands:





As you can see, it is entirely ruined, not because of the masks, but the paint I used was the utterly atrocious garbage water Mig bottles. This is the second time I've had this issue and so the second model ruined by it. The first time i was able to sand it back as it only developed orange peel texture on one small flat section, but on this one it has happened on almost the whole model, and across all the red and green layers.

To make matters worse, I did the skirts separate,and when removing the mask the ENTIRE layer of paint came off with it revealing a clean brass panel..

[Imgur](https://i.imgur.com/MnUZVqY.jpg)

My goal this year was to finish every build I start, as I tend to go through ups and downs with my motivation and inspiration as a build progresses and I would end up with many unfinished kits around the house which is what I was avoiding. Unfortunately I will not be able to meet that goal, as I will be calling this build finished.

I'm happy with how the figures are going, so they will easily be able to be used on another build.

I really appreciate all your kind comments, and it is this community that keeps me going when I struggle with motivation - I will be back when I decide on what I wish to do next -

Thanks for looking!
~ Steve
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Posted: Tuesday, April 09, 2019 - 07:12 AM UTC
Fun progress to watch!
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Posted: Monday, April 08, 2019 - 01:21 AM UTC
Nice progress on the figs and everything.
J
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Posted: Sunday, April 07, 2019 - 10:34 AM UTC

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Yep after exhaustive laser/satellite triangulations I can now report that the MG…looks #$^*4&!! excellent! Nice figs too Steve, what’s the prep on the faces made of, am I seeing texture or should I go back to Specsavers again?



Cheers mate! I think the white was too thin. so created the speckled look which then appears to be textured (like on the boots too). It was on the whole figure but after the first glaze it goes away - at least I hope!


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The poor guy suffered from a pretty bad case of smallpox when younger. Was not uncommon in Europe at the time....




Aww poor guy


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The build and figures are looking good. Where did you get the seated figure?



Thanks mate, all 3 are from TANK, set number: T-35003
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Posted: Sunday, April 07, 2019 - 01:43 AM UTC
The build and figures are looking good. Where did you get the seated figure?
Namabiiru
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Posted: Sunday, April 07, 2019 - 12:25 AM UTC

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Yep after exhaustive laser/satellite triangulations I can now report that the MG…looks #$^*4&!! excellent! Nice figs too Steve, what’s the prep on the faces made of, am I seeing texture or should I go back to Specsavers again?



The poor guy suffered from a pretty bad case of smallpox when younger. Was not uncommon in Europe at the time....

Dioramartin
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Posted: Saturday, April 06, 2019 - 10:39 PM UTC
Yep after exhaustive laser/satellite triangulations I can now report that the MG…looks #$^*4&!! excellent! Nice figs too Steve, what’s the prep on the faces made of, am I seeing texture or should I go back to Specsavers again?
DrChopp
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Posted: Saturday, April 06, 2019 - 08:06 PM UTC

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Hi, Steven!

There's no such thing as "perfect", not even in real life...

Don't give yourself a nervous breakdown over a few "spots". Anyone who is going to count the spots or criticize their shape, color or their placement on your figures' camo clothing, needs to get THEIR heads examined...



Thanks mate, its not bothering me too much, but I'm one of those people who looks right past all the good and can only see the mistakes in my own work


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Enough lurking, time to de-cloak – it’s a beauty Steve! Great PE work too & I don’t care if the odd spot’s out of place on the camo jacket, you’ve got that authentic hunch on the guy which is far more important, quite Rutmanesque. Although that MG34, are you sure the barrel’s aligned - it looks like it’s pointing slightly north of true? Any decisions on the dio yet?



G'day mate! - thanks for the kind words! As Mark said, its actually the whole gun in that pic - the whole gun wasnt glued into the cradle at the time...


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Really shaping up nicely! Great detail for this scale.
J



Thanks J, much appreciated!


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Nice work Doc , fig is cool man don't sweat it , gotta agree with Tim about the long dog look on the mg tho .....



Cheers mate, much appreciated!


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To me, the barrel looks like it's aligned okay; it's the fact the whole gun is mounted at a slight angle to the cradle that creates that appearance, I think. The back end of the gun is sitting just a tiny bit low in the cradle. My $0.02...




Bingo -whole gun was a bit off in the pic. I was gonna do the gun and mount separately, but decided to glue it for paint at the last minute. As is the was, she took a tumble and the whole cradle snapped. Got it back together, but the cradle is a bit bent now! Should be okay though as there will be an MG shield covering them -



The main focus of my attention lately has been the crew. This dude looks a lot better in person (dont they all?) but the pics came out okay:





And the commander, with his autumn camo pants:







Glad they turned out so well, they'll look very nice INSIDE the bloody tank!

Anyways, I should have some ambush masks arriving tomorrow or Tuesday, so should be able to move forward with the Hetzer...

Thanks for looking!
~ Steve
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Posted: Friday, April 05, 2019 - 11:44 PM UTC
To me, the barrel looks like it's aligned okay; it's the fact the whole gun is mounted at a slight angle to the cradle that creates that appearance, I think. The back end of the gun is sitting just a tiny bit low in the cradle. My $0.02...

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Posted: Friday, April 05, 2019 - 09:41 PM UTC
Nice work Doc , fig is cool man don't sweat it , gotta agree with Tim about the long dog look on the mg tho .....
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Posted: Friday, April 05, 2019 - 08:34 AM UTC
Really shaping up nicely! Great detail for this scale.
J
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Posted: Thursday, April 04, 2019 - 11:38 PM UTC
Enough lurking, time to de-cloak – it’s a beauty Steve! Great PE work too & I don’t care if the odd spot’s out of place on the camo jacket, you’ve got that authentic hunch on the guy which is far more important, quite Rutmanesque. Although that MG34, are you sure the barrel’s aligned - it looks like it’s pointing slightly north of true? Any decisions on the dio yet?
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Posted: Thursday, April 04, 2019 - 07:45 PM UTC
Hi, Steven!

There's no such thing as "perfect", not even in real life...

Don't give yourself a nervous breakdown over a few "spots". Anyone who is going to count the spots or criticize their shape, color or their placement on your figures' camo clothing, needs to get THEIR heads examined...
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Posted: Thursday, April 04, 2019 - 02:46 PM UTC

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Nice work Steve! I've never attempted PE but your work here is actually inspiring!

Regards
Dave



Cheers mate, glad to hear! Give PE a go, there's a learning curve like all things, but once you get the hang of it, its very rewarding!

Alrighty, well I did try to make my own masks for the ambush camo - but after a couple of days worth of failed attempts I decided on getting some pre-cut masks. Maybe the tape i used was too thick, but either way the paint on the vehicle is on hold while they are posted out.

I forgot to get a pic of this last time, so here's the MG-34 -



And here's the crew:



I've started paint on one crew member:







This was my first time trying camo like this, and while the spots are far from perfect, its good enough for me, and I'll try to do better on the next crew member!

Thanks for looking!

~ Steve
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Posted: Saturday, March 30, 2019 - 05:27 AM UTC

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Great build so far. I hate PE so I don't add much to my builds. Yours looks amazing. I don't have the patience. Good luck. Looking forward to the finished product.



Hi, Jeff!

Gee, it's too bad that you hate PE so moch- PE can REEEALLY add to a model's appearance, especially in the scales which are larger than 1/72... Oh well, "to each, their own"...

In my own efforts, the only models that I will build without PE, are the ones which DON'T have any PE sets made for them. In which case, I'll "improvise"...
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Posted: Saturday, March 30, 2019 - 05:14 AM UTC
Nice work Steve! I've never attempted PE but your work here is actually inspiring!

Regards
Dave
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Posted: Saturday, March 30, 2019 - 03:19 AM UTC
Thank you all for your kind words! I think I will go with the ambush scheme - as Mark pointed out I have mask templates for it. I've never done this much masking, or a 3 tone mask so I was a little apprehensive.

I've had some airbrush issues today, so I spent my Saturday giving them a full clean before proceeding with paint.

At this stage, it has been assembled and is ready to go:




I had a turned brass antenna mount in the bits box, so I used that on the right hand side instead of the plastic part. The plastic mount was actually very nice, and a metal "upgrade" is entirely unnecessary



This assembly was a big mystery to me. I had absolutely no idea what it was,so I set about researching it. Turns out its for the spare antennas, although trying to find a picture of a vehicle WITH spare antennas in it was near impossible!



As such it is a bit overscale and doesnt line up as nicely as it could. I'm not planning to have spare antennas in it (which seems more common) so I wont bother changing it.

I've got the airbrushes cleaned and ready to go, so tomorrow it gets primed. I think I will spend Sunday cutting and prepping the masks, and getting a layer of colour down. I dont want the masks on the vehicle any longer than is necessary so will aim to do the masking and final two colour layers all in one day (next weekend most likely)

Thanks for looking!

~ Steve