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1/35 Hunting Hetzer
DrChopp
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Posted: Thursday, March 14, 2019 - 09:32 PM UTC
Hello all,

I've taken a short break from armour to have a go at a 1/48 helicopter...after that experience, I need to get stuck into some German armor.

I did a bit of research and from what I understand, the Hetzer is one of the rare kits that Tamiya have got the most detailed and accurate offering. So a while ago I picked one up, and a whole mess of aftermarket -





I really love tank hunters, and I really love German armour so this should be a lot of fun. The idea here is to do the Hetzer in a hull-down ambush position, possibly either in a wooded area using natural terrain as cover, or maybe in an urban area using rubble. I'm not sure where I'll go with it, so we'll see what happens!

~ Steve
Namabiiru
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Posted: Thursday, March 14, 2019 - 11:27 PM UTC
Been wanting to do a Hetzer myself for sometime so I will be watching with interest.

timcc2008
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Posted: Friday, March 15, 2019 - 02:04 AM UTC
The Hetzer was the very first armor kit that I built and painted with a brush by hand. Looking forward to your build!

vr

Tim
GazzaS
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Posted: Friday, March 15, 2019 - 01:50 PM UTC
fifty three years old and yet to build a Hetzer! Looking forward to yours!

Gaz
DrChopp
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Posted: Friday, March 15, 2019 - 10:10 PM UTC

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Been wanting to do a Hetzer myself for sometime so I will be watching with interest.




I'm really liking this kit, even without the aftermarket. I think I need to change my attitude towards Tamiya kits.


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The Hetzer was the very first armor kit that I built and painted with a brush by hand. Looking forward to your build!

vr

Tim



Nice! Was it this kit, or the earlier release?


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fifty three years old and yet to build a Hetzer! Looking forward to yours!

Gaz



Gaz, you gotta grab this kit if you're thinking of throwing one together

I've been a bit under the weather lately, so have been slowly progressing. Got the rear hull plate together and detailed:



I also gave the rubber of the road wheels a bit of wear - I'm thinking of this being set on the eastern front, with the Germans on the defensive:



One of the things I was surprised with were the hinges on this kit. The Hetzer has quite a few, and while I had the option of PE, I found the molded on hinges were more in scale, and very crisp:





Thanks for looking

~ Steve
timcc2008
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Posted: Monday, March 18, 2019 - 02:10 AM UTC

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Nice! Was it this kit, or the earlier release?



It was the Testors/Italeri kit released in about 1980.

vr

Tim
DrChopp
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Posted: Monday, March 18, 2019 - 09:12 AM UTC

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Nice! Was it this kit, or the earlier release?



It was the Testors/Italeri kit released in about 1980.

vr

Tim



Oh nice, Revell still sell that kit!

I've had a decent weekend of work, and am nearly ready for paint!









I'm pretty pleased with the dented effect on the muffler, just done with a round file.

The shurzen are just barely hanging on from some small rods drilled into the side, but when glued into place should sit flush against the hull.

The wheels have been super-glued into place so can be easily snapped off for paint, but will hold strong enough to get the tracks done. I've kept the hull in 2 separate parts to make the track assembly easier:



I've added a small power conduit to the notek light and assembled it to look like it has been knocked slightly to the left as can be seen in many pictures:



The jackblock supplied with the kit seems to have the metal straps indented, with the wood swollen up over them. I have seen this in some pictures caused perhaps by moisture getting into the block but it looks very wrong to me. I used the PE upgrades and some balsa to make a new one:





I've left a few of the small details off for painting:



I've also put the tool box together, opting for the PE option and I wanted it to be partially open and Tamiya doesn't give that option:





Thanks for looking, hopefully with have some paint on it soon!

~ Steve
DrChopp
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Posted: Monday, March 25, 2019 - 02:24 PM UTC
I've decided to use the link and length tracks provided by Tamiya in the kit. I find the sag and fit looks really good:







Should be able to get the rest of the build and get her primed soon. I'm still unsure of what sort of camo I wanna do. I think the ambush scheme might be a little too complex for me.

From what I understand vehicles painted in factory ambush camo are all mostly identical, is that right? With the differences being between factories?

Thanks,
Steve
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Posted: Monday, March 25, 2019 - 02:34 PM UTC
Great build so far. I hate PE so I don't add much to my builds. Yours looks amazing. I don't have the patience. Good luck. Looking forward to the finished product.
dhines
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Posted: Monday, March 25, 2019 - 02:48 PM UTC
Awesome job with the etch. I am looking forward to seeing the masks used and the paint applied.
GazzaS
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Posted: Monday, March 25, 2019 - 08:57 PM UTC
Ambush scheme to intense for you?? If you can bend that PE so well, I'm certain a little paint should be easy for you.

GAz
M4A1Sherman
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Posted: Monday, March 25, 2019 - 09:10 PM UTC

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Hello all,

I've taken a short break from armour to have a go at a 1/48 helicopter...after that experience, I need to get stuck into some German armor.

I did a bit of research and from what I understand, the Hetzer is one of the rare kits that Tamiya have got the most detailed and accurate offering. So a while ago I picked one up, and a whole mess of aftermarket -





I really love tank hunters, and I really love German armour so this should be a lot of fun. The idea here is to do the Hetzer in a hull-down ambush position, possibly either in a wooded area using natural terrain as cover, or maybe in an urban area using rubble. I'm not sure where I'll go with it, so we'll see what happens!

~ Steve



Hi, Steve!

I LIKE this kit... As far as your after-market "bits and pieces" are concerned, THAT's nearly precisely the way I executed my Hetzer! (I used the kit's "Link & Length" Tracks, too!)

You'll DEFINITELY have fun with this one!!!
Namabiiru
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Posted: Monday, March 25, 2019 - 11:17 PM UTC
Love the PE work!

Not sure why you wouldn't do ambush scheme--your initial photo seems to show a set of PE masks for exactly that. should make it a cinch.

timcc2008
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Posted: Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 12:43 AM UTC
Outstanding work on the PE. Looking forward to the paint- hoping you choose the ambush scheme.

vr

Tim
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MODELGEEK
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Posted: Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 07:51 AM UTC
any further developments? As this is a kit I'm interested in
hemblecreations
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Posted: Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 06:14 PM UTC
Loving all the details on this.
DrChopp
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Posted: Saturday, March 30, 2019 - 03:19 AM UTC
Thank you all for your kind words! I think I will go with the ambush scheme - as Mark pointed out I have mask templates for it. I've never done this much masking, or a 3 tone mask so I was a little apprehensive.

I've had some airbrush issues today, so I spent my Saturday giving them a full clean before proceeding with paint.

At this stage, it has been assembled and is ready to go:




I had a turned brass antenna mount in the bits box, so I used that on the right hand side instead of the plastic part. The plastic mount was actually very nice, and a metal "upgrade" is entirely unnecessary



This assembly was a big mystery to me. I had absolutely no idea what it was,so I set about researching it. Turns out its for the spare antennas, although trying to find a picture of a vehicle WITH spare antennas in it was near impossible!



As such it is a bit overscale and doesnt line up as nicely as it could. I'm not planning to have spare antennas in it (which seems more common) so I wont bother changing it.

I've got the airbrushes cleaned and ready to go, so tomorrow it gets primed. I think I will spend Sunday cutting and prepping the masks, and getting a layer of colour down. I dont want the masks on the vehicle any longer than is necessary so will aim to do the masking and final two colour layers all in one day (next weekend most likely)

Thanks for looking!

~ Steve
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Posted: Saturday, March 30, 2019 - 05:14 AM UTC
Nice work Steve! I've never attempted PE but your work here is actually inspiring!

Regards
Dave
M4A1Sherman
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Posted: Saturday, March 30, 2019 - 05:27 AM UTC

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Great build so far. I hate PE so I don't add much to my builds. Yours looks amazing. I don't have the patience. Good luck. Looking forward to the finished product.



Hi, Jeff!

Gee, it's too bad that you hate PE so moch- PE can REEEALLY add to a model's appearance, especially in the scales which are larger than 1/72... Oh well, "to each, their own"...

In my own efforts, the only models that I will build without PE, are the ones which DON'T have any PE sets made for them. In which case, I'll "improvise"...
DrChopp
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Posted: Thursday, April 04, 2019 - 02:46 PM UTC

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Nice work Steve! I've never attempted PE but your work here is actually inspiring!

Regards
Dave



Cheers mate, glad to hear! Give PE a go, there's a learning curve like all things, but once you get the hang of it, its very rewarding!

Alrighty, well I did try to make my own masks for the ambush camo - but after a couple of days worth of failed attempts I decided on getting some pre-cut masks. Maybe the tape i used was too thick, but either way the paint on the vehicle is on hold while they are posted out.

I forgot to get a pic of this last time, so here's the MG-34 -



And here's the crew:



I've started paint on one crew member:







This was my first time trying camo like this, and while the spots are far from perfect, its good enough for me, and I'll try to do better on the next crew member!

Thanks for looking!

~ Steve
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Posted: Thursday, April 04, 2019 - 07:45 PM UTC
Hi, Steven!

There's no such thing as "perfect", not even in real life...

Don't give yourself a nervous breakdown over a few "spots". Anyone who is going to count the spots or criticize their shape, color or their placement on your figures' camo clothing, needs to get THEIR heads examined...
Dioramartin
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Posted: Thursday, April 04, 2019 - 11:38 PM UTC
Enough lurking, time to de-cloak Ė itís a beauty Steve! Great PE work too & I donít care if the odd spotís out of place on the camo jacket, youíve got that authentic hunch on the guy which is far more important, quite Rutmanesque. Although that MG34, are you sure the barrelís aligned - it looks like itís pointing slightly north of true? Any decisions on the dio yet?
jrutman
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Posted: Friday, April 05, 2019 - 08:34 AM UTC
Really shaping up nicely! Great detail for this scale.
J
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Posted: Friday, April 05, 2019 - 09:41 PM UTC
Nice work Doc , fig is cool man don't sweat it , gotta agree with Tim about the long dog look on the mg tho .....
Namabiiru
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Posted: Friday, April 05, 2019 - 11:44 PM UTC
To me, the barrel looks like it's aligned okay; it's the fact the whole gun is mounted at a slight angle to the cradle that creates that appearance, I think. The back end of the gun is sitting just a tiny bit low in the cradle. My $0.02...