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Answers to questions about the right paint scheme or tips for the right effect.
Filters/Pin Wash
Brianlee
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Posted: Tuesday, November 06, 2018 - 07:26 AM UTC
What order do you guys do it in? I just picked up some of the MIG pre mixed filters and wondered if you guys tend to filter after pin wash is sealed? or vice versa?
Vicious
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Posted: Tuesday, November 06, 2018 - 08:57 AM UTC
I do paint-decal-filters (on matt/satin surface)-washes
Neo
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Posted: Tuesday, November 06, 2018 - 09:56 AM UTC
You guys probably know but if not, he has alot of YouTube vids on use of his stuff...

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCL6_tIOt48umgXGllwBP5w
Brianlee
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Posted: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 - 06:51 AM UTC
Ok - good stuff, so pin wash LAST typically?

And seal it with gloss after the filters (after paint/decals), prior to the pin wash.


I'm working on a Pz IV Revell of Germany 1/72 and doing the lower hull and running gear separate & want to weather the sides before putting the sprocket, wheels, idler on each side

Do you guys do that before as well? I'm also fining my washes sit way better when doing the wheels when they are horizontal/unattached to the model
Vicious
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Posted: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 - 09:46 AM UTC
yes, at least for me, wash, pigments, etc ... at the end, the pin washes flow better on a satin or gloss surface, however the basic technique is always the same then each has its own system and variations, also for tracks and other parts each have their own preferences I do if I can as you say in separate blocks then it also depends on the kit
Brianlee
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Posted: Monday, November 12, 2018 - 07:43 AM UTC
So to put it in a real life example: I have a Revell of Germany 1 72 King Tiger, built painted, decaled and satin/gloss coated. All of the tools are off the model and painted/sealed/washed, ready to be added on.

I'm planning on using the Tan for Tri Color Camo Filter from MIG, but wondering if I should do the pin wash on the rivets, flowed into the steel wheels etc., THEN filter or filter first, dry, seal gloss, then wash? Also, should I have the tools/cables on for the filter ?


Again, thanks for the ideas on specific order of things
brekinapez
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Posted: Monday, November 12, 2018 - 08:16 AM UTC
The filter helps blend the camo together and would happen before you apply any kind of weathering. You would want the tools on so they match the tone of the rest of the tank after the filter hits it. The pin wash really acts to make details pop out and simulates the dirt that accumulates in the cracks and crevices so you would want it to be the last thing prior to any dust effect you might want on it. Dust is always best applied after all other effects.
Brianlee
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Posted: Monday, November 12, 2018 - 08:50 AM UTC
Awesome! Exactly what I wanted to hear - thanks!