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BM-13 Katyusha (zvezda) 1/35
MiguelBR
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Posted: Tuesday, September 04, 2018 - 09:42 PM UTC
One of the my last jobs: BM-13 Katyusha (zvezda) 1/35



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Posted: Thursday, September 13, 2018 - 10:23 AM UTC
Is this a rehash of the Italeri from back in the day?

Or is it a Studebaker?
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Posted: Thursday, September 13, 2018 - 11:37 AM UTC
It's a post WW-2 Zil based one. Zil-157 did not start production till 1958. Only Steady - Breaker one I've seen is the ICM one.
MiguelBR
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Posted: Thursday, September 13, 2018 - 07:46 PM UTC
Here links

https://forum.valka.cz/topic/view/33126/Varsava-Muzeum-polske-armady

https://www.flickr.com/photos/15632944@N00/5984737509

http://www.primeportal.net/artillery/yuri_pasholok/bm-13n_katyusha/

http://toparmy.ru/armii-istorii/krasnaya-armiya/vooruzhenie-armii/bm-13-katyusha-reaktivnaya-ustanovka-zalpovogo-ognya-foto.html

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Posted: Thursday, September 13, 2018 - 09:26 PM UTC
It's BM-13NN on ZIS-151 chassis (was in production since 1949)
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Posted: Thursday, September 13, 2018 - 11:43 PM UTC

Quoted Text

Is this a rehash of the Italeri from back in the day?

Or is it a Studebaker?



The easiest way to identify a Studebaker is by the shape of the front fender:

Horizontal straightplate, a tight 90 degree corner and then straight down.

The GMC 2½-ton has a fender with a few different radiuses:



and the ZiS/ZiL-151 has a single, large radius, curve


Someone else will have to show the detail differences between the ZiL-151 and ZiL-157. I have read that the grills are different but I have not found a clear image which explains it so that I can see it. The 157 also had single rear wheels but wheels can be swapped so that is not really a safe identifier.

The fronts of these two are slightly different but I wouldn't be able to spot the difference if one drove past me on the road.
157:


151: Sligthly more box-shaped, the top is different

Rear wheels are different, but ....

/ Robin
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Posted: Thursday, September 13, 2018 - 11:45 PM UTC
I think that the chasis is ZIS-151

This is the link of the kit on zvezda:
http://www.zvezda.org.ru/en/catalog/tehnika-WWII-1-35/3521

you can download the kit manual with some explanations
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Posted: Thursday, September 13, 2018 - 11:49 PM UTC

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I think that the chasis is ZIS 121

This is the link of the kit on zvezda:
http://www.zvezda.org.ru/en/catalog/tehnika-WWII-1-35/3521

you can download the kit manual with some explanations



Thanks Miguel!!

For those of us who can't recite a complete list of Soviet trucks when the KGB wakes us in the middle of the night:

ZiS-121: Tractor-trailer version.

151 is the regular truck with load bed, 121 has a fifth wheel instead.
/ Robin
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Posted: Thursday, September 13, 2018 - 11:51 PM UTC

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Quoted Text

I think that the chasis is ZIS 121

This is the link of the kit on zvezda:
http://www.zvezda.org.ru/en/catalog/tehnika-WWII-1-35/3521

you can download the kit manual with some explanations



Thanks Miguel!!

For those of us who can't recite a complete list of Soviet trucks when the KGB wakes us in the middle of the night:

ZiS-121: Tractor-trailer version.

151 is the regular truck with load bed, 121 has a fifth wheel instead.
/ Robin



Yes, It was a mistake, I have edited the response
Thanks
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Posted: Friday, September 14, 2018 - 01:02 AM UTC
Hi Miguel,
I got lost for a while in all those chassis and trucks all over the place so I thought that it was actually the tractor version that you were building
I was honest when I wrote "Thank you"
I don't know if the chassis for the launcher had a number of its own ...Well except for BM-13-16 but that is the complete launcher and not the chassis as such ...
/ Robin
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Posted: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 - 09:57 PM UTC

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Someone else will have to show the detail differences between the ZiL-151 and ZiL-157



One giveway is the wheels : the 151 is fitted with dual rear wheels whereas the 157 has bigger, single rear wheels with CTIS (Central Tyre Inflation System).

H.P.