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Italian Campaign 1943-1945
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Posted: Tuesday, May 21, 2019 - 09:27 AM UTC
Tim.

What! Roman axes on the wings of those planes LOL!

Nice work.

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Posted: Tuesday, May 21, 2019 - 08:00 AM UTC
Yes, Annie is looking sweet Shell.

Glad the fix worked for you Tim. Nice set of 10 x 'fly' or are they even that big!
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Posted: Tuesday, May 21, 2019 - 01:36 AM UTC
Success! My efforts to patch the dings on the Aquila’s flight deck with parts of the first decal worked just fine with the colors matching precisely and the seams nearly invisible. Yes! The remaining small white dots are almost imperceptible – I can pass them off as wear marks on a well-used flight deck. With the aircraft aboard they will be unnoticeable.

Speaking of aircraft, the kit came with ten airplanes, which are miniscule but still clearly recognizable as Reggiane Re.2000 fighters. Go GHQ!


I painted them Tamiya Field Grey with Gull Grey canopies. The fuselage bands were tiny strips sliced from the white sections of some spare decals.

Next step: clear coat, aircraft aboard, and done!

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Posted: Monday, May 20, 2019 - 07:55 PM UTC
Looks sweet, Shell!

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Posted: Monday, May 20, 2019 - 03:46 PM UTC
Based. A little light, but it will be covered by the dark yellow.





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Posted: Monday, May 20, 2019 - 01:05 AM UTC

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Really sorry to see that again Tim. Maybe this is a bad batch run and replacements will all be the same? Maybe Dan needs to check his supplier.

If it doesn't work out and you have one of the originals left, try spraying lacquer on the decal first to seal it. Let it dry thoroughly. Then settle the decal on a wet kitchen sponge instead of immersing it. Hopefully that will hold the ink together as you transfer it.



Thanks Peter. The clear coat and sponge approach sounds smart, and I may try it if I get a third deck to try... but the patch attempts on the second one have been fairly successful so far; perhaps I can divert attention a bit more with airplanes on the deck and pass off the remaining spottiness as weathering!

Gary, I always use distilled water when applying acrylic paints or decals just in case the minerals in tap water might cause problems. I don't know if it is necessary, but at least it is one more variable that I can control!
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Posted: Sunday, May 19, 2019 - 11:10 AM UTC
These are some of the pics I am using from various sources:









Last pic is shortly after her capture; you can see how the stencils on the carriages show gray underneath and look as if they were masked off when the light color was applied.
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Posted: Sunday, May 19, 2019 - 10:31 AM UTC
Shell,
I like the way you have divined the right colours for Annie! Can’t wait to see.

Gaz
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Posted: Sunday, May 19, 2019 - 10:29 AM UTC
Tim,
Sorry about your decal trouble. I find it interesting that you use distilled water. And I like Peter’s suggestion to use a spice.

Gaz
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Posted: Sunday, May 19, 2019 - 06:26 AM UTC
Getting ready to hit Anzio Annie with paint in a bit. I have decided to give a base of dark gray, followed by an overspray of dark yellow to mostly cover the gray from visible angles. All the period pics of Annie/Leopold I have seen do not show the dark brown patches as on the Leopold now. If anything, the areas of gray paint around the railway markings indicate to me the gun was gray (which it would have been) and was given an appropriate color for Italy before being sent to Anzio. But no dark brown.

I won't be replicating the framework for attaching camo as I neither have time nor good photo references. Also not a masochist.
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Posted: Saturday, May 18, 2019 - 04:30 PM UTC
Really sorry to see that again Tim. Maybe this is a bad batch run and replacements will all be the same? Maybe Dan needs to check his supplier.

If it doesn't work out and you have one of the originals left, try spraying lacquer on the decal first to seal it. Let it dry thoroughly. Then settle the decal on a wet kitchen sponge instead of immersing it. Hopefully that will hold the ink together as you transfer it.
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Posted: Saturday, May 18, 2019 - 12:55 PM UTC
Thanks, Peter.

Dan Arute of Flight Deck Decals responded to my plea about the defective Aquila deck marking with a free replacement decal - much appreciated! I applied it yesterday evening with the utmost care... soaked it in warm distilled water just long enough to loosen it from the backing, slid it off gently with a soft, wide brush to the glossed surface. As before it fit perfectly so no adjustment was required, and I didn’t use any setting solution.


It was definitely better this time, but those nasty little white spots still appeared on the deck!



Both decals had started out perfectly printed, but I noticed that the water compromised the delicate inks which started to wrinkle, crack, and flake away almost immediately when immersed.

I am experimenting with remnants of the first failed decal, cutting out little squares of the undamaged areas. I’ll try tonight to use them as patches to fix the second deck. I sure hope this works, because despite difficulties, I really love the look of this deck!
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Posted: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 - 11:42 PM UTC
Wow. Certainly not something you want to happen Tim. Lucky it was not when it had set to the deck. Hope the replacement arrives soon.
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Posted: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 - 11:28 PM UTC
Tim,

Bummer. Hope you get a replacement quickly.

Mark
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Posted: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 - 10:14 PM UTC
AAAARRRRRRRGHH!

Having carefully trimmed the Alps-printed decal from its white background, I placed it in warm water... and the damned thing started to disintigrate! I’ve used these decals with perfect results before, but I noticed that this one had a skein of micro cracks, and tiny bits just started falling off even before I slid it from the backing paper. I applied it to the deck anyway, but it looked so sad I immediately took it off.


I’ve written for a replacement...
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Posted: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 - 02:21 PM UTC
Tim,
A decal for the flight deck will solve a lot of issues. My personal favourite Regia Marina marking is the red and white stripes.

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Posted: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 - 07:10 AM UTC
Zsolt. Nice work on the Chaffee so far. I hope you can finish in time.

Tim, a decal flight deck was not what I expected. What a great idea. They all look fantastic. The red and white stripe section just calls out for a sign 'crash qui'
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Posted: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 - 02:55 AM UTC

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Hello to all,
Well, I was checking the forum almost everyday and guys, you've done nice models so far!
I am in a bit of a panic as there is only two and a half weeks to finish this campaign...
My Chaffee received its base paint and now I try to reorganize my evenings to finish before the deadline...
cheers,
Zsolt



Zsolt,
Your Chaffee looks promising. I'd hate to not see it complete. If you can't meet the deadline, I will give everyone a 2 week extension.

Gaz
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Posted: Monday, May 13, 2019 - 01:46 PM UTC
Progress status of my entry, AFV Club M10 tank destroy.





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Posted: Monday, May 13, 2019 - 01:01 AM UTC

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Tim,
I like the camo on your A/C carrier.

Gaz



Thanks Gaz. Now for the part of the build I’ve been looking forward to – the flight deck decal. Dan Arute at Flight Deck Decals 2400 offers some beautiful aftermarket decals for the flight decks of these tiny ships, and for the Aquila there is even a choice of three different styles.


Of course I had to choose one with the red and white “barber shop pole” on the bow!

With all that careful hull camouflage these highly visible markings might seem odd, but perhaps an even bigger threat than British submarines to the Italian Navy in World War Two was the Italian Air Force – so the prominent aerial identification markings do make sense!


I’ve glossed the model with Future, and given the featureless, flat expanse of the flight deck the decal should go on smoothly without the need for any setting solution.
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Posted: Monday, May 13, 2019 - 12:36 AM UTC
Hello to all,
Well, I was checking the forum almost everyday and guys, you've done nice models so far!
I am in a bit of a panic as there is only two and a half weeks to finish this campaign...
My Chaffee received its base paint and now I try to reorganize my evenings to finish before the deadline...
cheers,
Zsolt


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Posted: Sunday, May 12, 2019 - 02:16 PM UTC
Tim,
I like the camo on your A/C carrier.

Gaz
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Posted: Sunday, May 12, 2019 - 02:15 PM UTC
Shell,
Annie looks huge! Can't wait to see it painted.


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Posted: Sunday, May 12, 2019 - 01:55 PM UTC

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Tim,

I don't blame you, that should would be a major rework of stern to get correct.

Mark




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Tim

It got rebuilt like that after "battle damage"

Somethings you just have to live with. I hear you on correcting it.



Thanks guys!

So moving forward without fixing that funky stern, the Aquila got a coat of Tamiya Sky Grey (XF-19) acrylic. Comparing it with the Italian Navy WWII Ship Colors paint samples from Snyder and Short Enterprises, this paint looks to be a reasonable representation of the Italian Navy’s standard Grigio Chiaro (Light Grey).


One of the greatest threats to the Italian Navy in the confined waters of the Mediterranean was British submarines, so to break up the outline of their ships, the Italians often added blotches of Grigio Scuro (Dark Grey) over the lighter base grey.



These patterns showed quite a bit of variety; I chose to apply a blotch pattern inspired by that of the cruiser Fiume.



Tamiya Dark Grey (XF-24) matches Grigo Scuro fairly well, and Bianco Sporco Opaco (Matt Foul White) false bow and stern waves compete the hull camouflage.

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Posted: Saturday, May 11, 2019 - 03:16 PM UTC
Tim,

I don't blame you, that should would be a major rework of stern to get correct.

Mark