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Bussing Nag 4500A
b2nhvi
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Posted: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 - 06:27 AM UTC
Working on the AFV Club kit. It is the base for their 500 /4500 -A/S series of kits. There is only one gear shift in the cab. Did they miss the one for the transfer case or where the trucks all time 4X4?
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Posted: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 - 11:00 AM UTC
Looks like there are two levers (+ the parking brake) for the 4500A :



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Posted: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 - 11:15 AM UTC
Hi! As seen in Frenchy's pic (the Bussing-NAG 500A - which was automotively the same as the 4500A truck), there is the gear-shift lever (tall straight rod w knob), the tall hand-brake lever w lock-button and operating rod, and the shorter lever (bent rod w red knob) for shifting the transfer-case 4x2 - 4x4.

The use of red knobs for transfer-case shifters was pretty standard in German mil vehicles -

These same handles/levers also show up on some stock B-N 4500A chassis pics.

These images and others are readily found by Google "Bussing-NAG 4500A" and search among the images.

For more detail, you might also note the foot starter button down by the pedals... Another common German wheeled-veh feature (while many veh's had an ignition key, as seen in Frenchy's pic, this usually only turned the ignition circuit on - but did not trip the starter solenoid. That was operated by a foot button. This feature continues in many mil veh's to this day.)

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Posted: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 - 11:28 AM UTC
Thanks , guys. I'll have to fabricate the transfer case shifter. Interesting about the starter button. I'd seen it in the B-N and a couple other German trucks. Hadn't really thought about it. US cars back in the 60s -70s had something similar , but it was for the High/Low beams for the head lights.
guni-kid
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Posted: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 - 02:04 PM UTC
Good to know since I'm having one of AVFs Büssings lying around here waiting to be started soon...

One other question occurs to me when watching the picture: What was the little switch/lever at the steering wheel for? I noticed it also on other vehicles like the Einheits-PKW-family for instance (although there placed on the dashboard)...
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Posted: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 - 07:11 PM UTC
May be manual advance lever for the ignition? These also appeared on some German vehicles in the cetre of the steering wheel.
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Posted: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 - 07:46 PM UTC
I guess it's also called "Spark Advance Lever" :



Another option is a throttle lever...
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Posted: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 - 07:54 PM UTC
My stepfather told me about when his motorbike, with a largish engine, once nearly kicked him off the bike. He had forgotten to set the spark advance lever to low/start so when he kicked the starter pedal the pedal kicked back rather forcefully ...

Handcranked engines are easier/safer to start with the spark lever in the low/start position. Could break your arm otherwise ...
/ Robin
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Posted: Friday, March 23, 2018 - 11:32 AM UTC
My vote for that rather solid-looking lever mounted on the steering-wheel column is that it is either a hand-throttle (a common feature on older mil trucks - VERY useful for cross-country trucks when you get yourself caught in a terrain situation where you are trying to work the clutch, the brakes, AND the throttle all at once... I have this sort of rig on my old Pinzgauer 710m and it saved me from drowning when I had to back up out of a steep river-bed before "swimming over depth". ) - or it may be the lever used to open the heater-duct/vent behind the dash... (that also exists in the Pinz...)

Remember that the B-N 4500 / 500 series trucks were diesels - and they probably didn't have any "spark-advance" as found on gasoline engines of the bad old days - more likely, it had static glow-plugs and a pre-heater. So that lever may have had some start-up function? Someone who knows about older diesel set-ups might know what was involved. NOT like modern hi-perf diesels in modern trucks and cars, I am sure!

Bob
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