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Meng Merkava MK4 w/Trophy defense system
ReluctantRenegade
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Posted: Thursday, March 01, 2018 - 01:19 AM UTC

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I'd like your opinion, should I correct the alignement or does it look OK as is ? I mean those must get banged up all the time on the real thing, and that would add a little character. But maybe that's too much ?



The so-called 'bazooka plates' are attached to the tank through a simple spring-leaf suspension system and they do bang-up a LOT while on the move. A little bit of misalignment is OK, just make sure that the plates attached to the same spring-leaf by pairs are aligned.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 - 08:24 PM UTC
Not sure if this helps but sometimes the side skirts don't line up:

Nagmakava
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Posted: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 - 08:16 PM UTC
The Fruil Merk 4 tracks fit as I used them on mine
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Posted: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 - 06:54 PM UTC

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Will the academy Merkava IV tracks fit it?



Sorry, I don't have any way to check...
Maybe someone else have the answer
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Posted: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 - 06:34 PM UTC

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Hi guys, back with some progress.
So the upper hull is complete :





Now details of the side skirts. As you can see, they are a bit wild (the other side is more even).
I'd like your opinion, should I correct the alignement or does it look OK as is ? I mean those must get banged up all the time on the real thing, and that would add a little character. But maybe that's too much ? :





And the back mudguards, with the first of what looks like a bad fit :



And for all the track lovers out there, here is a little run. So they are in two halves, which means we need very little glue to keep them workable. here I use those blue hanging snips to "creep up" the length and make sure the last link is bonding strongly. Not too necessary really, but it's a small mercy for the tender finger tips :






A few duds (not going to clean that up since I'll do only the length of tracks that will be visible) :



And finally a little fit issue, easy to correct when matting the upper and lower hull (I leave unglued until painting and tracks are in place)



I think that's it. I appologize that the pictures seem smaller, but there was something wrong when uploading, had to reduce them a lot. Will do better next time.



Will the academy Merkava IV tracks fit it?
Selogon
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Posted: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 - 06:23 PM UTC
Great, thanks for your insights.
I thought so too.
By the way, those side skirts are a pleasure to mount, the attaching points are so precise it fits like a glove.
But in retrospect, i wonder if it would not be better to attach the mounts to the side skirts first, THEN attach the whole thing to the hull. Then it would be easier to make the small adjustments when gluing, maybe working the angle better.
As it is, I'll have to bend the plastic I think.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 - 03:56 PM UTC
Here are some nice photos for the side skirts. IMHO you can align then a little better, but not perfectly.



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Posted: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 - 03:39 PM UTC
The skirts are OK to me. I'd just align them a bit more where the gap is really noticeable but not like if they were fresh from factory. The rubber flaps are really good looking.

Olivier
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Posted: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 - 02:12 PM UTC
Hi guys, back with some progress.
So the upper hull is complete :





Now details of the side skirts. As you can see, they are a bit wild (the other side is more even).
I'd like your opinion, should I correct the alignement or does it look OK as is ? I mean those must get banged up all the time on the real thing, and that would add a little character. But maybe that's too much ? :





And the back mudguards, with the first of what looks like a bad fit :



And for all the track lovers out there, here is a little run. So they are in two halves, which means we need very little glue to keep them workable. here I use those blue hanging snips to "creep up" the length and make sure the last link is bonding strongly. Not too necessary really, but it's a small mercy for the tender finger tips :






A few duds (not going to clean that up since I'll do only the length of tracks that will be visible) :



And finally a little fit issue, easy to correct when matting the upper and lower hull (I leave unglued until painting and tracks are in place)



I think that's it. I appologize that the pictures seem smaller, but there was something wrong when uploading, had to reduce them a lot. Will do better next time.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 - 04:37 AM UTC
Wow thanks guys for the encouragement and the extra info!
Looks like Meng has done a good job here for the moment then
Will go on today
GTDeath13
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Posted: Thursday, February 22, 2018 - 04:03 PM UTC
Mr Mass sent me this photo to post:

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Posted: Thursday, February 22, 2018 - 05:15 AM UTC
Nice work Romain, you are doing a great job of pointing out the pitfalls in this kit as well. your comments are very easy to follow, thank you!
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Posted: Thursday, February 22, 2018 - 12:05 AM UTC

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Romain,
The gap in the back sloap is correct.
I do not know how to upload a photo here.



Perhaps I can help...



Very nice work thus far... And your presentation is a great help...
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Posted: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 - 08:43 PM UTC
Romain,

Thank you for this build - looking forward to more pics detailing your progress.

It looks like Meng have made some key engineering changes in the area of the engine cover and engine vent; I'm building their Mk. 3D now, and there was significant warping in the engine cover and the vent area that would have been prevented by the current design. But it is still a great kit.

I want this Mk. 4!!!

JH
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Posted: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 - 06:10 PM UTC
Romain,
The gap in the back sloap is correct.
I do not know how to upload a photo here.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 - 03:55 PM UTC

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And I had some time to get going.
Basckets at the back are assembled (they need care, but they do look good once made!) :




And the belly armor + some tow hooks + those kind of horns in the front.

The attachements for the belly armour had me a little apprehensive, but turns out the thing does not actually hang from them (they did look fidly to my eyes). The armor sits on the bottom of the hull. The thing feels quite heavy when all put together, I think it will be a heavy kit :






Close up of the photo-hetch parts.
I like parts 2-3-4, you could gratte your cheese on those!
The exhaust grill is fragile, but was no prob :



Talking exhaust, I feel this is a case of a little over-engineering. Goes well together with tweezers and care :



Thanks for looking !
Some more next week, I think ^^






I wonder if the tracks from Academy's Merkava IV will fit it?
the more I look at your build the more i want Meng's
Merkava IV
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Posted: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 - 01:43 PM UTC
And I had some time to get going.
Basckets at the back are assembled (they need care, but they do look good once made!) :




And the belly armor + some tow hooks + those kind of horns in the front.

The attachements for the belly armour had me a little apprehensive, but turns out the thing does not actually hang from them (they did look fidly to my eyes). The armor sits on the bottom of the hull. The thing feels quite heavy when all put together, I think it will be a heavy kit :






Close up of the photo-hetch parts.
I like parts 2-3-4, you could gratte your cheese on those!
The exhaust grill is fragile, but was no prob :



Talking exhaust, I feel this is a case of a little over-engineering. Goes well together with tweezers and care :



Thanks for looking !
Some more next week, I think ^^


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Posted: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 - 01:37 PM UTC
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Sure, answer away
As I said, I am not there yet on my build! If you have pics of the finished, assembled parts, that's even better



How do the tracks go together?




Hi, so here are some close ups. I have not yet actually assembled, but you can see.
So they are in two halves, which are not too hard to cut from the sprue, but they do have some flash. there is one annoying little excess that goes in a line on the bottom of one of the lines, which will demand a bit of clean up. Red line on the picture :



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Posted: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 - 05:01 AM UTC

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How do this kit's machine guns and their mounts look? I know that they were weak points of the Academy kit.

Regards,
James



Hope Romain won't mind me answering this but the guns do look very nice when made. The detail on the commanders MG is excellent. I did add a resin .50 cal ammo bag and an etch metal .50 ammo box holder on mine but there's nothing wrong with the kit ones, I just fancied adding them. I will post some photos.



Sure, answer away
As I said, I am not there yet on my build! If you have pics of the finished, assembled parts, that's even better



How do the tracks go together?

Selogon
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Posted: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 - 04:23 AM UTC

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How do this kit's machine guns and their mounts look? I know that they were weak points of the Academy kit.

Regards,
James



Hope Romain won't mind me answering this but the guns do look very nice when made. The detail on the commanders MG is excellent. I did add a resin .50 cal ammo bag and an etch metal .50 ammo box holder on mine but there's nothing wrong with the kit ones, I just fancied adding them. I will post some photos.



Sure, answer away
As I said, I am not there yet on my build! If you have pics of the finished, assembled parts, that's even better
Nagmakava
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Posted: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 - 12:03 AM UTC

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How do this kit's machine guns and their mounts look? I know that they were weak points of the Academy kit.

Regards,
James



Hope Romain won't mind me answering this but the guns do look very nice when made. The detail on the commanders MG is excellent. I did add a resin .50 cal ammo bag and an etch metal .50 ammo box holder on mine but there's nothing wrong with the kit ones, I just fancied adding them. I will post some photos.
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Posted: Monday, February 19, 2018 - 05:18 PM UTC
Springs are terrific. Looking at how it is done by Trumpy with their Rooikat, I'm crying now ;-)
Selogon
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Posted: Monday, February 19, 2018 - 03:46 PM UTC

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How do this kit's machine guns and their mounts look? I know that they were weak points of the Academy kit.

Regards,
James



Hi, I'm not there yet.
But I'll make pictures of what's on the sprues once I get better light, so you can be the judge
I have not made the Academy kit.
Petition2God
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Posted: Monday, February 19, 2018 - 04:59 AM UTC
How do this kit's machine guns and their mounts look? I know that they were weak points of the Academy kit.

Regards,
James
Selogon
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Posted: Saturday, February 17, 2018 - 07:39 PM UTC
Cool, thanks for chiming in
Yeah, it's going together pretty well.
I try to point out all little things just for the sake of going into details haha