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Scratchbuilt Gypsy racks
bison126
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Posted: Friday, February 02, 2018 - 04:09 PM UTC
Hi all,
I'm currently building a LAV 25 in early OIF. The vehicle I try to depict was part of the 4th LAR and was fitted with three Gypsy racks (two on the turret sides and one on the rear left side.
Thanks to the info I got from white4doc and Frenchy in this thread http://armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=265275

I managed to make the racks. They are far from perfect but I guess they'll do the trick when full of stuff.





The frame is made of Evergreen 0.56mm x 0.56mm rod and the support legs are 0.75mm x 0.75mm.

Olivier
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Posted: Friday, February 02, 2018 - 04:43 PM UTC
Those are great Olivier for Gypsy racks!!!!!!!!!
white4doc
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Posted: Friday, February 02, 2018 - 06:29 PM UTC
They came out great, Oliver. Even empty they look the part, can't wait to see them installed. This build will be doing the Ironhorse Marines proud!
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Posted: Friday, February 02, 2018 - 07:30 PM UTC


H.P.
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Posted: Friday, February 02, 2018 - 07:39 PM UTC
Well done, they are looking great Olivier
bison126
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Posted: Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 02:56 PM UTC
Thanks for the comments.
Here are some pictures with the racks fitted to the LAV. I still have a lot of stuff to add here and there and the camo net which will cover the top of the hull.









Olivier
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Posted: Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 03:44 PM UTC
Was this type of fuel cans with just a cross still used during OIF ?

Great stowage arrangement and camouflage is well done.
white4doc
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Posted: Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 08:07 PM UTC
It looks great, Oliver! Don't forget to have the packs lashed to towing shackles, made it easy to get gear on and off the vehicle. The old jerry cans were gone by 2003, but you can always hide them by the way you drape the camo net on the hull. The A/4> came out perfect, I'm loving this project of yours. When you do the antennae don't forget the tape strips which identified the vehicle number within the platoon 1, 2, 3, or 4.
bison126
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Posted: Saturday, February 03, 2018 - 09:28 PM UTC
Thank for the comment John. I'll try to swap the fuel cans with some in my stash.

Concerning the antenna, which type was the base? The kit provides you with cylindrical bases while I have resin ones with a hemispherical base.

Olivier
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Posted: Sunday, February 04, 2018 - 05:53 PM UTC
This is the antenna base I remember being on the vehicle and it's also the same one in my less high def pictures. This isn't mine however, it's from Prime Portal, I wanted to find you a better defined version; there was a lot of clutter in mine and the camera I had wasn't the best.

http://data3.primeportal.net/apc/dan_hay/lav_25_coyote/images/lav_25_coyote_042_of_178.jpg

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Posted: Sunday, February 04, 2018 - 07:11 PM UTC
The racks look really nice. Great job on them.

The antenna base was most likely the standard type for a SINCGARS radio, like below.


The pic linked above (below) is on a Canadian Coyote LAV. I have never seen that style on a US vehicle.
bison126
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Posted: Monday, February 05, 2018 - 01:04 AM UTC
Thank you Gino. So the kit antennas bases are correct.

BTW what radio system comes with the hemispherical bases?

Olivier
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Posted: Monday, February 05, 2018 - 01:07 AM UTC
Do you have a pic of the hemispherical base? I am not tracking what it looks like.
bison126
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Posted: Monday, February 05, 2018 - 02:04 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Do you have a pic of the hemispherical base? I am not tracking what it looks like.



I mean this type :


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Posted: Monday, February 05, 2018 - 03:26 AM UTC
Ah, OK. That is the newer, thinner SINCGARS antenna. I don't think it was around in early OIF ('03-'04) as you are depicting.
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Posted: Monday, February 05, 2018 - 11:52 AM UTC
Thank you Gino. Sorry if I was not clear enough

Olivier
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Posted: Monday, February 05, 2018 - 06:37 PM UTC
Oliver, I apologize for the bad link I posted, I copied the wrong picture's address and didn't double check before I hit post; luckily Gino caught it. Thanks, Gino. Man do I feel stupid, I spent 6 months looking at those mounts from the scout hatch you'd think I'd realize it wasn't a USMC vehicle... Hate to be the guy passing bad info. All comes from trying to do three things at once.
bison126
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Posted: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 - 11:22 PM UTC
No worry about the wrong pic John. You've already been really helpful in this project.

Now I call the LAV fully loaded







I still have to add the air recognition panel and to drape the camo net all around the hull.
A thorough weathering is needed too.

John could you explain the tape stripes on the antennas, (number, size, color, etc)?

Olivier
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Posted: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 - 05:28 AM UTC
It's coming together well, Oliver! The strips were about 6 inch long strips of riggers' tape which was 2 inches wide and OD green. The number of strips indicated the vehicle number within the platoon

1 Strip = White 1
2 Strips = White 2 (Platoon Cdr Cpt. Taylor)
3 Strips = White 3
4 Strips = White 4 (Platoon Sgt SSGT Guevarra)

They made it easy to keep track of your wingman. There were a couple of different air recognition panels within White platoon, white 4 had a VS 17 panel and an orange and OD boresighting reticle on it; IIRC CPT Taylor's vehicle carried similar panels.
bison126
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Posted: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 - 11:51 AM UTC
Thank you again for your help John.
From the pictures in Prime Portal, I intended to depict a "standard" orange air recognition panel. I don't know the VS 17 thing you're talking about.
If I'm correct the panel comes with OD edges.

Olivier
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Posted: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 - 01:04 PM UTC
Again !
Some pretty nice "scratch building" there .... overall great effort ... I really have to acknowledge all the details and the very convincing camo-job !

Very nice piece of work !
Cheers
Christopher
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Posted: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 - 03:38 PM UTC

Quoted Text

I don't know the VS 17 thing you're talking about.
If I'm correct the panel comes with OD edges.



December 2005 (!) thread :
http://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=66116

Ca ne nous rajeunit pas...

H.P.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 - 03:48 PM UTC
Thank you Christopher.

H.P. the pictures at Prime Portal show an orange panel. From the angle it's hard to tell whether or not the panel is square or rectangular.

If I'm correct, whatever the type of panel I use, one side is orange or tan, the other side is olive green.

Olivier
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Posted: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 - 05:46 PM UTC
Old ones were orange and OD green.


The newer versions are douple-sided with one orange side and one magenta side and an OD pouch at one end to store it in.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 - 10:57 PM UTC
Thank you Gino.

Olivier