login   |    register
World War II: Japan
Aircraft of Japan in WWII.
Hosted by Rowan Baylis
First Shapeways Experience
mrockhill
Visit this Community
Pennsylvania, United States
Joined: June 17, 2009
KitMaker: 566 posts
Armorama: 27 posts
Posted: Monday, December 18, 2017 - 05:06 AM UTC
Richard, glad to see the catapault arrived, its pretty impressive looking! Ive had some headscratchers myself when it comes to tracking packages. Ive seen some of my stuff go on some serious Odessyes including arriving at my PO hanging out for a day then being sent back to regional only to then be boomeranged back to my PO who somehow crossleveled it to another town and then back again. Nice address labels are no protection from this madness either!

Im not really a foodie .....but did someone say "reuben"?
Joel_W
Staff MemberAssociate Editor
AUTOMODELER
Visit this Community
New York, United States
Joined: December 04, 2010
KitMaker: 10,669 posts
Armorama: 1,143 posts
Posted: Sunday, December 17, 2017 - 07:40 AM UTC
Joseph,
That's heaven on Earth to me. When I was growing up in NYC in the 50's, my Dad would take us to Mollie's for Ice Cream Cones, and Vic's for an Egg Cream. Damn, those were great memories.
Joel
Headhunter506
Visit this Community
New York, United States
Joined: December 01, 2007
KitMaker: 1,539 posts
Armorama: 1,474 posts
Posted: Sunday, December 17, 2017 - 04:24 AM UTC
I plan on stopping by at the factory for a look with my son next week during Christmas break. Perhaps I can get a gander at their operation and give you guys a sitrep afterwards.

For those in the audience wondering what is an egg cream, two important facts:

1. It contains neither eggs nor cream
2. It's delicious

How to make an egg cream:

You'll need a tall straight-sided glass. A Coke glass or paper cone cup in a holder are preferable for authenticity.

Squirt 1" of Fox's U-Bet Chocolate Syrup (No Quik or Hershey's junk)or, vanilla syrup if you prefer, into the the bottom of the glass. Pour 1' of whole milk on top of the syrup. Take a long spoon, pour ice cold seltzer water (no club soda because it contains salts and minerals) slowly over the back of the spoon until the glass is three quarters full. Stir briskly until the ingredients are mixed and a foamy head forms. Stick a straw into it and enjoy the greatest soda fountain drink ever created.

rdt1953
Visit this Community
New Jersey, United States
Joined: February 06, 2015
KitMaker: 996 posts
Armorama: 67 posts
Posted: Saturday, December 16, 2017 - 09:10 PM UTC
Joeseph - Thanks for the tips - sounds like insider information. My daughter lives in Chelsea so not too far from the offices - I have to take the city in small infrequent doses so given my limited time there I believe I'll opt for the diner and the Reuben Pastrami Burger rather than Shapeways- Damn the cholesterol- full chow ahead !

Richard
rdt1953
Visit this Community
New Jersey, United States
Joined: February 06, 2015
KitMaker: 996 posts
Armorama: 67 posts
Posted: Saturday, December 16, 2017 - 09:02 PM UTC



Rob - Thanks for the links - these will be very helpful indeed ! Richard
Joel_W
Staff MemberAssociate Editor
AUTOMODELER
Visit this Community
New York, United States
Joined: December 04, 2010
KitMaker: 10,669 posts
Armorama: 1,143 posts
Posted: Saturday, December 16, 2017 - 08:24 PM UTC
Joseph,
I'll skip the tours and hit the diner ASAP for their signature sandwich; a Reuben Pastrami Burger and an ice cold Egg Cream. I haven't had a real Egg Cream in close to 50 years. And for those that are thinking how could anything named Egg Cream be a little bit of Heaven on Earth, you really need to taste the real McCoy, not the bottled version which is nothing like the original.

Joel
Headhunter506
Visit this Community
New York, United States
Joined: December 01, 2007
KitMaker: 1,539 posts
Armorama: 1,474 posts
Posted: Saturday, December 16, 2017 - 05:47 PM UTC
For future reference to those of us living the the states, Shapeway's NYC corporate office is located at 419 Park Ave. South 10016, 9th Floor, on the corner of E. 28th St. The office phone number is (914)356-5816. Why they use a Westchester/Upstate NY area code for a business in the city is odd; but, hey, it is what it is.

The factory is located at 30-02 48th Ave., Suite 1, Long Island City, NY, 11101-3401, just a stone's throw from the scenic Queensboro Correctional Facility and LaGuardia Community College and only a few blocks from Aviation High School, which my kid attends. If you ever have the urge to annoy the employees, feel free to call them at (718)361-6720 between 10 AM and 6 PM. And, if you're in the neighborhood checking out the factory, stop in at Van Dam Diner, conveniently located on the corner of Van Dam St. and 47th Ave., and enjoy their mouthwateringly delicious Reuben Pastrami Burger and an ice cold egg cream, your choice of chocolate or vanilla.
Dragon164
#226
Visit this Community
British Columbia, Canada
Joined: February 20, 2012
KitMaker: 1,892 posts
Armorama: 1,053 posts
Posted: Saturday, December 16, 2017 - 01:02 PM UTC
Have a look here:

https://www.reynoldsam.com/product/xtc-3d/

https://www.fictiv.com/hwg/fabricate/ultimate-guide-to-finishing-3d-printed-parts

https://makezine.com/projects/make-34/skill-builder-finishing-and-post-processing-your-3d-printed-objects/

I still can't find the one I saw before.

Cheers Rob.

rdt1953
Visit this Community
New Jersey, United States
Joined: February 06, 2015
KitMaker: 996 posts
Armorama: 67 posts
Posted: Saturday, December 16, 2017 - 05:45 AM UTC

Quoted Text

I saw this catapult last night and have a strong itch to order it. I'll wait and watch your effort.

So far I have been happy with my Shapeway models. Yes, some have the layering texture - the smaller the scale the more prominent some are.

I have Hasegawa's Alf and can send you the instructions.



Thanks Fred - I'll take you up on the offer of instructions - sending you a PM -
Richard
Dragon164
#226
Visit this Community
British Columbia, Canada
Joined: February 20, 2012
KitMaker: 1,892 posts
Armorama: 1,053 posts
Posted: Saturday, December 16, 2017 - 03:46 AM UTC
I have been very happy with all my Shapeways purchases.

I have read some different ways of dealing with the texture but I can't recall where they are at the moment.

Cheers Rob.
JPTRR
Staff MemberManaging Editor
RAILROAD MODELING
#051
Visit this Community
Tennessee, United States
Joined: December 21, 2002
KitMaker: 7,539 posts
Armorama: 2,352 posts
Posted: Saturday, December 16, 2017 - 03:17 AM UTC
I saw this catapult last night and have a strong itch to order it. I'll wait and watch your effort.

So far I have been happy with my Shapeway models. Yes, some have the layering texture - the smaller the scale the more prominent some are.

I have Hasegawa's Alf and can send you the instructions.
SteveAndrews
Visit this Community
England - South East, United Kingdom
Joined: August 16, 2010
KitMaker: 637 posts
Armorama: 16 posts
Posted: Saturday, December 16, 2017 - 02:51 AM UTC
Hey guys
I reckon we are looking at the future of our hobby here. It might be the equivalent of the Wright Flyer now, but give it ten years and I'm sure we'll all be printing our own kits and maybe even customising them in virtual reality.
This could be the start of an exciting new era. I wonder which manufacturer will be the first to issue a mainstream kit for 3D printing?
Happy modelling.
Steve
Merlin
Staff MemberSenior Editor
AEROSCALE
#017
Visit this Community
United Kingdom
Joined: June 11, 2003
KitMaker: 17,352 posts
Armorama: 902 posts
Posted: Saturday, December 16, 2017 - 02:38 AM UTC
Hi Richard

It's great to see it arrive safely after the mix up. The texture is certainly an issue - but we're really still in the early days of 3D printing, so I take my hat off to you as a pioneer leading the way for the rest of us.

For me, the game-changing moment will be when acceptable 3D-printed clear parts hit the scene. That could turn the kit industry on its head. Looking beyond that, come the day (probably not too far off at the rate things are progressing...) when we can all afford to have super-high resolution printers in our workshops, the market may well be based around selling designs to print at home, rather than physical kits.

All the best

Rowan
rdt1953
Visit this Community
New Jersey, United States
Joined: February 06, 2015
KitMaker: 996 posts
Armorama: 67 posts
Posted: Saturday, December 16, 2017 - 02:23 AM UTC
The catapult showed up today on my doorstep - never heard from the woman at Shapeways but I will certainly let her know.

This is how it arrives - well packed and in good order -





impressive size -



This seems to be a different material than the cradle- opaque white rather than translucent - and the texture is a coarse pebbly one-



The cradle will take much work to get it to fit the rails-



Here it is posed with Hasegawa's 1/48 Pete -



So I am not entirely thrilled . The clean up will take considerable effort - but I assumed that before purchasing. It certainly has the potential for an impressive model. I have since acquired " The Heavy Cruiser Takao " by Janusz Skulski from the Anatomy of the Ship series . Absolutely incredible piece of work with some of the finest draftsmanship I have seen. This must represent many years of work for the author and he should be applauded .
It contains detailed catapult drawings so I could certainly scratch build one now if I choose. I'll come back to this after the Hayabusa Dio is wrapped up.
If anyone out there has one of the Hasegawa 1/72 floatplane with catapult kits and would be willing to copy the instructions for me I would be grateful - PM me if you do .

to be continued - Thanks - Richard
rdt1953
Visit this Community
New Jersey, United States
Joined: February 06, 2015
KitMaker: 996 posts
Armorama: 67 posts
Posted: Thursday, December 14, 2017 - 06:23 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Hi Richard

What a saga on what should have been so straightforward.

I've got to ask... if the post office deny ever receiving it (presumably somebody signed for it in order for UPS to declare their part in the sequence completed?), how/why has the search shifted to Europe?

All the best




Rowan


Hi Rowan - I'll do my best to dissect this with the caveat that some of it is speculative on my part .
First an explanation of the parties involved as I understand it.
Shapeways - the company that actually does the 3D printing ( manufacturers)
UPS - ( United Parcel Service ) - a privately owned delivery business- I don't know if they operate outside the USA
USPS - ( United States Postal Service ) - an agency of the Federal Government responsible for delivering the mail.
After ordering the catapult from Shapeways they keep you abreast of the progress via their website until the object has been actually made and when shipped you are notified via e- mail and given tracking info .
Some businesses use a shipping process whereby UPS ( private) delivers the package to your local Post Office ( USPS-government) and the Post Office then delivers it to the final destination ( my house )
I fail to see the advantage of this labyrinthine method as UPS also does service to your door - however , I am not in the shipping business so there may be benefits to some that I am not aware of.
My tracking info supplied to me by Shapeways via a link to UPS ( private) stated package accepted at my local post office on a Friday at approximately 11 am.
Expected delivery by the following Tuesday.
When Tuesday came and went with no package I printed out the page from UPS and took it to my Post Office- they checked their system and had no record of receiving it .
So the finger pointing begins - UPS say they delivered - USPS says they didn't.
I informed Shapeways of the issue via their system by e mail - of course there is no phone to actually speak to a human being.
Their contact info said someone will respond within 8 hours and indeed they did .
The e mail I received from a woman from Shapeways had a time stamp on it Central Europe Time .- hence my belief that she was indeed in Central Europe.
I don't know if Shapeways is Headquartered there or if, to their credit , it was handed off to her in order to keep their promise of a response within 8 hours as the people in the USA were likely asleep as I was.
So there we have it folks - stay tuned for more drama !
Hobbies are fun , right ? Richard
Merlin
Staff MemberSenior Editor
AEROSCALE
#017
Visit this Community
United Kingdom
Joined: June 11, 2003
KitMaker: 17,352 posts
Armorama: 902 posts
Posted: Thursday, December 14, 2017 - 04:13 AM UTC
Hi Richard

What a saga on what should have been so straightforward.

I've got to ask... if the post office deny ever receiving it (presumably somebody signed for it in order for UPS to declare their part in the sequence completed?), how/why has the search shifted to Europe?

All the best

Rowan
rdt1953
Visit this Community
New Jersey, United States
Joined: February 06, 2015
KitMaker: 996 posts
Armorama: 67 posts
Posted: Thursday, December 14, 2017 - 04:00 AM UTC
The woman said Shapeways will offer reprint if package is lost but I have no idea what sort of time frame is involved- truth be told I'm in no hurry so I'll ride it out- more to follow ! ( everyone enjoys a mystery , correct ? )

Richard
Joel_W
Staff MemberAssociate Editor
AUTOMODELER
Visit this Community
New York, United States
Joined: December 04, 2010
KitMaker: 10,669 posts
Armorama: 1,143 posts
Posted: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 - 11:18 PM UTC

Quoted Text

It seems the catapult is caught up in the shipping debacle where UPS takes it to my local post office and then the Post Office delivers it to me. UPS tracking says my post office received it - post office says they never got it - the Shapeways facility that made it is less than 2 hrs away by automobile and now we have a woman in Central Europe looking for it !
It's a different world folks- Richard



Richard,
That sucks for sure. Will Shapeways ship you a replacement if this doesn't get resolved sooner then later?

Joel
AmTrac1833
#431
Visit this Community
Florida, United States
Joined: February 20, 2014
KitMaker: 371 posts
Armorama: 306 posts
Posted: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 - 06:37 PM UTC
I've been turning to 3D-printed parts for much of my detail parts lately. Various radios, M60 machine gun, ammo cans, shackles and sorts other stuff in 1/35 & 1/700. I prefer the detail (and cost) of 3D-prints over same items in resin, which is typically the only alternative.
rdt1953
Visit this Community
New Jersey, United States
Joined: February 06, 2015
KitMaker: 996 posts
Armorama: 67 posts
Posted: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 - 05:19 PM UTC
It seems the catapult is caught up in the shipping debacle where UPS takes it to my local post office and then the Post Office delivers it to me. UPS tracking says my post office received it - post office says they never got it - the Shapeways facility that made it is less than 2 hrs away by automobile and now we have a woman in Central Europe looking for it !
It's a different world folks- Richard
Joel_W
Staff MemberAssociate Editor
AUTOMODELER
Visit this Community
New York, United States
Joined: December 04, 2010
KitMaker: 10,669 posts
Armorama: 1,143 posts
Posted: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 - 12:37 AM UTC
Richard,
It figures. My wife would never let me mortgage the house as we killed ourselves paying a 30 year mortgage off n 18 years

Chris,

I keep on looking at the kit, and I'm dying to get at it, but honestly it's scares me to death. I've read horror stories as all the issues including trying to actually get the engine mounted correctly. Still, sooner then later I'm going to give it a go, as I really don't have much of a later left.

Joel
rdt1953
Visit this Community
New Jersey, United States
Joined: February 06, 2015
KitMaker: 996 posts
Armorama: 67 posts
Posted: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 - 04:45 PM UTC

Quoted Text


Quoted Text

Thanks for the input Joel - I was on the fence about ordering the catapult itself given the amount of work it may need and limited access to do said work. Then I got an email from Shapeways offering CyberMonday discounts and free shipping so I pulled the trigger on it . I'll post pics when it arrives. Richard



Richard,
Looking forward to seeing the catapult.

I really have to checkout their site. I've got the 1/32 Kitty Hawk Kingfisher just waiting for an excuse to be built.

Joel



Joel- Shapeways offers a USN P 6 catapult for your Kingfisher but you may change your mind when you see the price - yikes ! $$$$

Better talk to your mortgage broker!
Richard
c4willy
#305
Visit this Community
Christchurch, New Zealand
Joined: February 01, 2006
KitMaker: 1,673 posts
Armorama: 120 posts
Posted: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 - 07:49 AM UTC
I'd love to see it built Joel is that not inducement enough? Lol
Joel_W
Staff MemberAssociate Editor
AUTOMODELER
Visit this Community
New York, United States
Joined: December 04, 2010
KitMaker: 10,669 posts
Armorama: 1,143 posts
Posted: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 - 03:01 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Thanks for the input Joel - I was on the fence about ordering the catapult itself given the amount of work it may need and limited access to do said work. Then I got an email from Shapeways offering CyberMonday discounts and free shipping so I pulled the trigger on it . I'll post pics when it arrives. Richard



Richard,
Looking forward to seeing the catapult.

I really have to checkout their site. I've got the 1/32 Kitty Hawk Kingfisher just waiting for an excuse to be built.

Joel
rdt1953
Visit this Community
New Jersey, United States
Joined: February 06, 2015
KitMaker: 996 posts
Armorama: 67 posts
Posted: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 - 01:58 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Its simply amazing to me that such things are available, my hats off to whoever decided the world needed scale replicas of WWII japanese floatplane cradles and launch catapaults and took the time to design them. I also scratch my head as to how one designs such complex and arcane things, that took a certain inspiration to create, and then not try to "print" them.



Mike & Chris - Thanks for looking in - Go to Shapeways.com and type " Kure ships" in search box-I tried to post link but the http code does not display - diStephan 3D print designer Sasa Drobac's offerings for Japanese ships - I believe they can be made in just about any scale. It seems I may be the first to buy & try -

If one wanted it seems an entire deck scene could be done . Interesting to note that the cost of the catapult more than doubles from 1/48 to 1/32 !

Cheers - Richard