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barrowb98
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Posted: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 - 03:28 AM UTC

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Are they available in the U S yet ?



We've got them https://www.megahobby.com/products/real-colors-acrylic-lacquer-paint-10-ml-ak-interactive.html
barrowb98
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Posted: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 - 03:26 AM UTC

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Which would be a good color for a M1A2 and beyond, all desert paint scheme?
From these true colors?



CARC Tan. RC079
sgtreef
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Posted: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 - 03:20 AM UTC
Which would be a good color for a M1A2 and beyond, all desert paint scheme?
From these true colors?
retiredyank
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Posted: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 - 02:00 AM UTC
I ordered mine from michtoy.com a few days ago. They shipped them, yesterday; and I am expecting them, tomorrow.
brekinapez
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Posted: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 - 01:45 AM UTC
They may have accurate colors but there are issues with them like any other paints. A fellow who has been testing them out found they aren't as easy to use the hairspray method as some paints are, so be aware you may need to spend some time experimenting.
j76lr
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Posted: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 - 01:27 AM UTC
Are they available in the U S yet ?
Bricksy1969
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Posted: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 - 03:01 PM UTC
Saw these at Telford - look great paints and no blocking of nozzle!

Will def be buying some
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Posted: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 - 01:28 PM UTC
I got the chance to airbrush them on the AK stand at Telford. Representative said it was thinned with Mr Cole r self levelling thinner. Sprayed beautifully. He said the paint and thinner had been in the cup for two hours and still sprayed flawlessly. Great range of colours. Just slightly more expensive than Tamiya, so agood price point, which important to a lot of people, me included.
AgentG
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Posted: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 - 10:11 AM UTC
Just ordered the DAK colors set. Can't wait, tired of mixing Tamiya.

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SEDimmick
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Posted: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 - 05:53 AM UTC

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Scott,
Who did you order from if I may ask? Looking forward to trying them out myself.
Cheers,
Rick



Ordered directly
clovis899
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Posted: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 - 03:14 AM UTC
Scott,
Who did you order from if I may ask? Looking forward to trying them out myself.
Cheers,
Rick
j76lr
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Posted: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 - 03:09 AM UTC

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The non-faded one...it’s better...has a touch more brown to it.


Thanks, I'll order it in the next batch


thank you
Vodnik
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Posted: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 - 02:25 AM UTC

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The non-faded one...it’s better...has a touch more brown to it.


Thanks, I'll order it in the next batch
Vodnik
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Posted: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 - 02:24 AM UTC

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for some reason I thought they were Acrylic !!


They are acrylic, but they are acrylic lacquer, similar to Tamiya acrylics, or Gunze Hobby Aqueous, which are also acrylic lacquers.
j76lr
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Posted: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 - 02:20 AM UTC
for some reason I thought they were Acrylic !!
SEDimmick
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Posted: Monday, November 13, 2017 - 06:44 AM UTC

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The US OD is very nice...thats the only color I opened up yesterday.



Which one? I believe they introduced several ODs in this new line. Anything comparable to classic Steve Zaloga's mix of Tamiya OD (the original one) and dark yellow?



The non-faded one...it’s better...has a touch more brown to it.
Grauwolf
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Posted: Monday, November 13, 2017 - 06:19 AM UTC
This should answer all your questions:

http://armorama.kitmaker.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=features&file=view&artid=7611

Cheers,
j76lr
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Posted: Monday, November 13, 2017 - 05:08 AM UTC

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They airbrush very similarly to Tamiya. I got a grainy finish when thinned with Tamiya lacquer thinner but a smooth one thinned with Mr. Leveling thinner. The paints can be hand brushed easily thinned with water and will not pull up the previous layer like Tamiya. They seem to be "best of both worlds" paint, and accurately matched as well.


Can they be thinned with alcohol ?
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Posted: Sunday, November 12, 2017 - 09:41 PM UTC
They airbrush very similarly to Tamiya. I got a grainy finish when thinned with Tamiya lacquer thinner but a smooth one thinned with Mr. Leveling thinner. The paints can be hand brushed easily thinned with water and will not pull up the previous layer like Tamiya. They seem to be "best of both worlds" paint, and accurately matched as well.
j76lr
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Posted: Sunday, November 12, 2017 - 09:34 PM UTC

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I plan to,they look interesting,like Tamiya with more colors.


yeah Tony they look good. I didnt realize the werent released yet
JavierDeLuelmo
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Posted: Friday, November 10, 2017 - 11:16 PM UTC

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The name looks promising "REAL ACRYLIC LACQUER" with a statement like "REAL COLOR ACCURACY", but then since they write "Now, for the right color, we needed the advice and expertise some of the wise men have acquired on this subject. calling to the Experts ", means that their line of acrylic paints produced up to now was a scam?!? .... sound like ..." we made enough cash with inaccurate colors to finally be able to pay experts and produce accurate colors! "...



A badly composed marketing slogan indeed



But not entirely inaccurate based on my experience with their Australian Armour cam colours. A black that's dark blue-green, olive drab that's mid sand brown, and a tan that's probably close.



Well, IMHO I can't remember any other paint company willing to contract true and respected experts (including a real professional of the paint industry as Jürgen Kiroff) to get accurate colours. In fact and sadly, I know (many know) first hand how "research" is made at some hobby companies.

I have never been a fan of vinyl paints (except for brush work), but a Tamiya heavy user. If AK is now willing to correct their past errors and, what really matters, getting accurate colours + a wider range in this new acrylic lacquer line, that's OK. Got some bottles and will try them as soon as I get some spare time, specially as some friends speak quite well of their tests.
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Vodnik
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Posted: Thursday, November 09, 2017 - 07:04 PM UTC

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The US OD is very nice...thats the only color I opened up yesterday.



Which one? I believe they introduced several ODs in this new line. Anything comparable to classic Steve Zaloga's mix of Tamiya OD (the original one) and dark yellow?
SEDimmick
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Posted: Thursday, November 09, 2017 - 06:21 PM UTC
At least they are acknowledging the fact that the vast majority of paints that have been coming from weathering brands have been mere suggestions of the real thing.

I got my sets in yesterday and they seem very promising. The US OD is very nice...thats the only color I opened up yesterday.

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Posted: Thursday, November 09, 2017 - 12:28 PM UTC

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The name looks promising "REAL ACRYLIC LACQUER" with a statement like "REAL COLOR ACCURACY", but then since they write "Now, for the right color, we needed the advice and expertise some of the wise men have acquired on this subject. calling to the Experts ", means that their line of acrylic paints produced up to now was a scam?!? .... sound like ..." we made enough cash with inaccurate colors to finally be able to pay experts and produce accurate colors! "...



A badly composed marketing slogan indeed



But not entirely inaccurate based on my experience with their Australian Armour cam colours. A black that's dark blue-green, olive drab that's mid sand brown, and a tan that's probably close.