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General Ship Modeling: Creating Ship Dioramas
Topics on building dioramas are grouped here
Help with getting ocean diorama started.
Jettail
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Posted: Thursday, November 02, 2017 - 05:58 AM UTC
So I have a good Idea for a Kit that is on the way. a 1:700th USS Los Angeles SSN-688.

My idea is this, the submarine is underwater, perhaps a parascope sticking up, and the sub has just launched a UGM-84 (Or TLAM) which has already breached the surface.

Now...how do I make a fairly good looking ocean while also giving a perfect view of the submerged submarine? With decent effects (bubbles from the recently surfaced missile and yadda yadda.

Any help or any good tutorials, tools, ect. is really appreciated.
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Posted: Thursday, November 02, 2017 - 06:24 AM UTC
Cameron,

Take a look through these how to's.....many types of water bases discussed.

http://modelshipwrights.kitmaker.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=features&file=view&artid=3803

and this one:

http://www.modelshipwrights.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=features&file=view&artid=2527

There are many more, just do a search on "Water Bases"
and pick the one you like best.

Cheers,
Jettail
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Posted: Thursday, November 02, 2017 - 07:36 AM UTC
Thank you, hmm, I think I might try the A/B with a bigger focus on the Below, itll be pretty thin since it will be my first Diorama ever.
Well...that's not true, but my first vessel, I wanted to do a Typhoon SSBN launching a missile in the arctic. but I need to put that one on hold. Maybe I should do a surfaced vessel for my first one?
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Posted: Thursday, November 02, 2017 - 05:57 PM UTC

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...Maybe I should do a surfaced vessel for my first one?



Hi Cameron,

If this is your first diorama, how about a simple approach to water, just to gain confidence as you learn?  photo Enterpriseoceanbasepainting6_zps5600833c.jpg
I often use simple Celluclay (paper mache). It is easy to work with and yields pretty good results for surfaced vessels.
Jettail
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Posted: Friday, November 03, 2017 - 05:08 AM UTC
Perhaps, I have a few references that I would like to do in terms of a surfaced sub.


or


I would like to learn more about celluclay if you have any more info on it?
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Posted: Saturday, November 04, 2017 - 07:33 PM UTC

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I would like to learn more about celluclay if you have any more info on it?



Here's an article dealing with celluclay and water effects that might be helpful.

http://www.modelshipwrights.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=42

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Posted: Monday, November 06, 2017 - 01:44 AM UTC
If you can read Korean (I think) this may be useful. If not at least the pictures may give you some ideas.

https://blog.naver.com/PostView.nhn?blogId=leowonny&logNo=221132195238

https://blog.naver.com/PostView.nhn?blogId=leowonny&logNo=221126961418
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Posted: Monday, November 06, 2017 - 05:32 AM UTC
If you're going to use Celluclay, use moistened fingertips to form and smooth the waves. When dry, paint whatever color the water is, and apply several coats of acrylic varnish, letting it dry thoroughly between coats. That will give the illusion of depth. Adding white glue to the Celluclay mix will help to avoid warping and cracking during drying. If you are not using a plastic base, make sure a wooden base is well sealed with a varnish, or paint, as the moisture from Celluclay will case the wood to warp. Also, don't make your Celluclay too deep - no more than a half inch at a time. Otherwise it will take forever to dry.
Jettail
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Posted: Monday, November 06, 2017 - 06:10 AM UTC

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If you can read Korean (I think) this may be useful. If not at least the pictures may give you some ideas.

https://blog.naver.com/PostView.nhn?blogId=leowonny&logNo=221132195238

https://blog.naver.com/PostView.nhn?blogId=leowonny&logNo=221126961418



Holy crap...I wish I could read korean, Id love to find out how exactly he did that.
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Posted: Monday, November 06, 2017 - 09:44 AM UTC
Might give Google translate a try, it may work.
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Posted: Wednesday, November 08, 2017 - 01:13 AM UTC

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Holy crap...I wish I could read korean, Id love to find out how exactly he did that.



Likewise, they are amazing. I wish I had the patience and skill to do that.