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Armor/AFV: IDF [Israeli Defense Forces]
Armor and AFVs of the IDF army from 1947-today.
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IDF mantlet canvas color
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Posted: Friday, October 27, 2017 - 11:31 PM UTC
Is the canvas used on IDF tanks the same color as the tank generally or is it a different shade of Sanai sand. Asking to see what I need to paint the mantlet cover and rear storage canvas on Takom's Merkava I hybrid. Thanks
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Posted: Saturday, October 28, 2017 - 12:26 AM UTC
Tamiya instructions say Buff for the canvas.
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Posted: Saturday, October 28, 2017 - 06:41 AM UTC
Do they call out a different color for the tank itself?
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Posted: Saturday, October 28, 2017 - 08:49 AM UTC
Jason, I have the new Desert Eagle Merkava I book, and it has many really good (and large) color photos on both the Mk. 1 and Mk. 1 Hybrid tanks. The canvas mantlet, such as it is, and the few photos of the fabric color on the rear turret basket show them in colors that are as close to exactly the same as can be. I would just paint those parts the same color as the tank, and you'll be 100% accurate!

P.S. I have the Takom Merkava I kit on order (the 'other' Takom Merkava) and will be using the book to detail that tank, when I get it. If you plan to do another Merkava I at some point, I would REALLY recommend this book. I made a post in the thread about the Desert Eagle book, and I wrote there that the picture quality (size, color and sharpness) is the best of any of the several Desert Eagle books that I have (I have the Merkava 3D and Merkava 4 books), and the Sabingamartin IDF Shot Centurion and Shot Kal books, and this Merkava I is the best of any of these, purely in image quality (and all of those are great books, too, no slam against any of them).
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Posted: Saturday, October 28, 2017 - 09:27 AM UTC
Thanks...I have the Merkava I kit, as well
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Posted: Saturday, October 28, 2017 - 10:06 AM UTC

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Thanks...I have the Merkava I kit, as well



Great! I hope you'll post some build pictures of that one also (in particular, in case of any difficulties). I'll look to you for help when I start putting mine together. Maybe by then there will be some aftermarket things available for those kits (besides tracks, which already exist).
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Posted: Saturday, October 28, 2017 - 02:33 PM UTC

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Is the canvas used on IDF tanks the same color as the tank generally or is it a different shade of Sanai sand.



Very similar, maybe slightly darker and a bit browner. Under a layer of dust looks pretty much the same. I would paint it using a darker shade of the main color just to generate more interest.
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Posted: Saturday, October 28, 2017 - 02:34 PM UTC

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Tamiya instructions say Buff for the canvas.



That is clearly wrong.
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Posted: Saturday, October 28, 2017 - 04:06 PM UTC

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Tamiya instructions say Buff for the canvas.



That is clearly wrong.



i use tamiya kahki drab for my Israli armor for all the canvas parts

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Posted: Saturday, October 28, 2017 - 04:10 PM UTC

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i use tamiya kahki drab for my Israli armor for all the canvas parts



Me too.

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Posted: Saturday, October 28, 2017 - 09:35 PM UTC
Unless the canvas was replaced, it would be painted when the tank was painted with the same color. Any tonal differences would be caused by a texture difference between canvas and metal.
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Posted: Sunday, October 29, 2017 - 12:05 AM UTC

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Unless the canvas was replaced, it would be painted when the tank was painted with the same color. Any tonal differences would be caused by a texture difference between canvas and metal.


Thanks guys. I went with same as the base, but didn't lighten it like the rest of the vehicle.