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Armor and ground forces of the Axis forces during World War II.
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Posted: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 - 04:56 PM UTC
Don't know what happened yesterday, so I'll try again today.
Start of putting the assemblies in position on the underside of the second Ssys.




Some interesting buildings for the planned diorama, courtesy of the mentioned site in earlier post:



Good references as they all are in 1/32 scale and a big plus is that some measurements are provided. With some old school eyeballing I have the confidence this will be doable.

Hope it all shows up now.
Well it did. Must have been the Beer.

Kind regards,

Robert Jan
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Posted: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 - 07:51 PM UTC
Fantastic work Robert. Will love to see the building done too.
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Posted: Thursday, May 16, 2019 - 09:25 PM UTC
I know what happened to those image links
There was left-overs from the prompt text
http://put.url.here/image.file
so it looked like this http://https:// followed by the rest of the image link. The whole http://put.url.here/image.file needs
to be replaced by the link to the image which looks like this for imgur links:
https://i.imgur.com/.jpg

Sometimes old aerial photographs can show the layouts of railroad stations. Modern "satellite views" in map services show layouts and tracks but moder day stations are "stripped" down compared to mid 20th century.
One thing to consider is the length of switches, 20 to 25 meters long could be a reasonable minimum for switches on sidetracks, somewhere around 30 meters is more likely.
In Sweden the smallest radius of the curved rail (turnout radius) in the switch is 300 meters. The switch will have to be long enough for this curve to move from one side to the other.





(Trivia: The longest switches in the current highspeed network in Germany are 169 meters long ...)

The longest model railroad switches are actually rather short ....

/ Robin
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Posted: Thursday, May 16, 2019 - 10:29 PM UTC
Hi Robin.
Thanks for clearing what went wrong with the photos.
About the Railroad Switches, I found 2 download pages from German modeling companies with Fine Scale & PUR drawings (and a lot more useful information). When building a S49 standard EW 190 (Einheitsbau for DRG/DR/DB) it would be approx. 1 meter in length building it in 1:35 scale.
Recently I saw Joe Fix released 1:35 scale switches, tracks and some detailing stuff, from resin. Detail looks ok, but measurements for the switches are not, length only about 30 cm for a switch (that is Märklin 1:87 Toy Switch in 1:35 scale). Project Armor 35 also released some in resin for their Russian gauge models, length is approx. 70 cm for a switch, still too short. With all the diagrams I collected over the last weeks I'll try to make my own.
Also some PDF's from the downloads, with a workshop and loads of drawings give me all the details for a good representation of rail tracks, sleepers with variable length, connecting and placing switches and correct placement of signs. There is a lot to think about when you want to do it in scale.
So when people are interested I will share the information I have already, of course it is in German language, but that's no problem I think.

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Robert Jan
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Posted: Friday, May 17, 2019 - 01:45 AM UTC
You could consider making only a part of the switch, just enough to indicate that it is there.

This is the railroad station in Arvika (Sweden)
https://www.hitta.se/kartan!~59.65352,12.59000,19z/tr!i=e51dq5FE/search!i=4000353025!q=Arvika%20Station%20Arvika!t=single!st=plc!a=59.65359:12.59115/tileLayer!l=1/measure!p=59.71028:14.15934,59.70953:14.15938
The level loading ramp is in the lower (south) part of the image, where the loaded timber waggons are.
There was also a goods shed with a level loading ramp by the parked cars, upper right part. This was only for light goods. It had a very short side track, enough for one or maybe possibly two boxcars so that the main track would not be blocked.
The main loading ramp is approximately 70 meters long.
The row of loaded timber waggons is 58 to 60 meters long.
The nearest switch is 20 to 25 meters long, the distance from narrow end of switch until the branched off track is outside the clearance width is 40 meters.

/ Robin
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Posted: Friday, May 17, 2019 - 02:10 AM UTC
Hi Robin.
I have a free room in my house and the width is 3.88 meter. I'm planning to build modules that will measure 1.20 meter in length. Width depends on whether tracks are on it, or if other scenery is displayed. For tracks displayed it will be 1.20 x 0.40 cm. Scenery back ground 1.20 x 0.20 cm. To add extra modules, all will be loose element with the idea of building up in length and width. So for the platform, another module can be attached to expand, etc.
In real life trains, platforms, logistics always have amazed me. I'm a great fan of railroad modeling. as from my childhood I played and build trains, layouts, etc.
Now I want to build a diorama, which is static of course, where I can combine Armor and Trains.

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Posted: Friday, May 17, 2019 - 04:17 AM UTC

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Hi Robin.
I have a free room in my house and the width is 3.88 meter. I'm planning to build modules that will measure 1.20 meter in length. Width depends on whether tracks are on it, or if other scenery is displayed. For tracks displayed it will be 1.20 x 0.40 cm. Scenery back ground 1.20 x 0.20 cm. To add extra modules, all will be loose element with the idea of building up in length and width. So for the platform, another module can be attached to expand, etc.
In real life trains, platforms, logistics always have amazed me. I'm a great fan of railroad modeling. as from my childhood I played and build trains, layouts, etc.
Now I want to build a diorama, which is static of course, where I can combine Armor and Trains.

Kind regards,

Robert Jan



Wow!
With THAT much space I can only say:
GO FOR IT !!!!!!!!!!!
and post lots of pictures
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Posted: Friday, May 17, 2019 - 05:10 PM UTC
Fascinating & great scratch-working Robert Jan. Maybe you could have the dio running round the room with a central “well” to take photos from?
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Posted: Friday, May 17, 2019 - 06:26 PM UTC
Hello Tim and Robin.
Will certainly make lots of photos. My intention is to show a platform with loading and unloading. Situation, time scheme end of 1943 up to end of 1944, when there was a lot change in fronts. Railway station is situated near the Eiffel so I can show trains coming back from the south and east, heading for the west front. How to do that? Modules with loads on wagons, platform that has different activity.
Will start soon on planning the track layout. Waiting for the MiniArt sets to land on my doorstep.

Now I have to get me some ICE COLD BEER, I'm cooking.

Kind regards,

Robert Jan
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Posted: Friday, May 17, 2019 - 06:39 PM UTC
Impressive builds sofar, Robert!
And what you plan will be huuuuge!!!
Will look in awe,


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Posted: Friday, May 17, 2019 - 11:40 PM UTC
Thanks Ange for the interest in what I'm doing. I feel really numb seeing your work to be honest.
For this build in the planning, I want to do what I always dreamed of, so dreams, plans and hopefully a lot of action. We'll see.
Today I had a clean workbench, a lot of painting and construction work to get things finished and have good feeling too.
Waiting for sone books and construction part to get other things started.
Invested in some tools, materials and a lot of information. Monday I have a day of, annual spraying for the little buggars that ruin your house, if you don't make that straight. Lots to think about.
Hungry now, so take my bike a score sone food.

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Robert Jan
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Posted: Thursday, June 06, 2019 - 03:10 AM UTC
Hi all.
Waiting for the new released Sabre Models Ssyms 80 tons Schwerlastwagen, to carry my Tigers I, I first have to finish them.
Some pictures below show the state for both. Original RFM kits are the Fehrmann Tigers. But I left them all blanc, (except for the Zimmerrit), to decide what to add later, or to remove.
Intention is to show a pretty worn-out couple of Tigers, ready to get on the train. Number one has steel road wheels, number two has rubber on and provided with transport tracks from Friul Models.
Number one. Steel road wheels, Zimmerrit from ATAK for a Fehrmann Tiger I. Original kit tracks, pretty ok to handle.

One is lucky to buy this set from ATAK, buying 2 RFM kits, you can make 2 versions out of one set, if you want.
Washes and weathering are still in progress, but close to get a final matte layer.
Next is how the second looks like right now. Details on the hull will show up later, applying hairspray. For the paint job I did not made any decisionb yet, we will see. Turret I will show later, not completed yet and missing the barrel, for the reason I'm a bit confused on that one.


For Tiger number 2, I had to do some surgery on the mudguards, cut the parts and hinged it for transport. Exposed flange attachments come from E.T. Models, mixed with RFM kit parts, tracks are from Friul Model.
Number one.

Number two.


Hope you like it.
Meantime I'm waiting for a train to arrive.

Have a nice evening,

Robert Jan
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Posted: Thursday, June 06, 2019 - 03:28 AM UTC
Some more:




Cheers
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Posted: Thursday, June 06, 2019 - 10:34 AM UTC
Robert,

Loving this thread of yours! So much good information and great modeling!
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Posted: Thursday, June 06, 2019 - 10:54 AM UTC
Great work. Very accurate.
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Posted: Friday, June 07, 2019 - 02:31 AM UTC
Thank you both for the heads up. Slow progress over the last weeks, work is eating my energy to make big steps in the weekends with modeling. But progress is progress.

Kind regards,

Robert Jan
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Posted: Friday, June 07, 2019 - 11:04 PM UTC
POW! Now that looks like a Tiger, I really like the non-specific shades particularly at the back. I’d just fly this kite (doubtless to be shot down in flames) – would a tank typically only a few months old show so much rust staining? I honestly don’t know, but I’d imagine the comparatively much older rolling stock would, so might the tanks need to look less so in contrast? Dirtier – certainly
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Posted: Friday, June 07, 2019 - 11:37 PM UTC
Hi Tim thanks for stopping by.
Top Tiger is almost finished. Still has no final coat of flat, that will tone down. See how it turns out. The black and rusty no cupola Tiger is still in progress. Black primer and some red rusty colors for pre shading. Wheel will be covered, so painted Tiger looks much fresher.

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Robert Jan
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Posted: Sunday, June 09, 2019 - 02:49 AM UTC
It is the season one can not plan anything outside. Rain Season. Humidity to extremes and a very disappointed modeler. So what to do? Little jobs like fixing details, reading, cleaning and composing with loads for the Büssing NAG 4500L.
The loads are resin and come from Value Gear. Nice but heavy for a styrene truck. But she holds it with pride.
I painted them as side projects while waiting, etc. Fuel drums come from AFV Club. Excellent and easy to scratch later on. Büssing is almost ready now. Time to weather the cabin. Rear is in progress with a lot of wood. Too much and hand painting touches of grey will do the trick.
Pictures of the loads in progress and loaded on the truck.


I had a lot of fun doing these mini projects.





Rainy days, reminds me of Jimmy... Electric Lady Land.
https://youtu.be/9E7iGdWNOP0

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Robert Jan
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Posted: Sunday, June 09, 2019 - 05:28 AM UTC

Stunning, Robert, simply stunning!

Both the load/truck and the music!
Am a big fan of Mr.Jimi, so here is one of my favorites for you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJ7AttIb-kc

Enjoy music and modelling!

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Posted: Sunday, June 09, 2019 - 11:09 AM UTC
Hi Angel thanks for the heads up. Jimmy will always be there in my world of music. Thanks for sharing your favorite. Early now, (6:08 AM), so will listen when I come home.

Kind regards,

Robert Jan
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Posted: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 - 01:13 AM UTC
Outstanding work on the freight load and Kudos to Value Gear as well.

The load might be heavy but the Nag should be able to handle it.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 - 01:52 AM UTC
Thanks Michael. Value Gear might be a bit pricy, but really stands out in detail. The NAG is holding it with proud. I have another set with some crates and 200L drums, will come in handy with a future build.
Received my MiniArt tracks yesterday. Quite different from what others do in 1/35 scale. Now waiting for the new Sabre Models tracks that come with the 80tons Schwerlastwagen end of this week I hope, otherwise first days of next week.

Thanks for looking in,

Robert Jan
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Posted: Friday, June 14, 2019 - 02:59 AM UTC
Hello all.
So my Sabre Models hit the soil of Thailand today, now waiting for delivery.
With lots of business on tracks, a big loco needs a lot of space. So I decided to build shunters the Germans used, calling them Rail Trucks. In 2013 I did a conversion with a Zvezda kit of the Mercedes L4500A and the Plus Model kit to actually build one. I got my hands on two set last month ordered two Zvezda kit, so number one will start here. The reason I bought two is because pictures show them operate as a team to handle the heavy loads on tracks. Pictures below will show what I mean.
All pictures come from this site: http://www.eisenbahnstiftung.de/bildergalerie/Reichsbahn im Krieg or I picked them up from Missing-Lynx, Flickr, etc. All for discussion purposes only.

When you look at the back, the other truck is coupled in reverse
I will be using this.

Some more Mercedes Rail Trucks, note that they are still on normal rubber tires.

There were lots of other manufacturers , like Büssing NAG, Faun, Henschel and Magirus building Rail Trucks, but kits to build a decent bigger Büssing 650, or a Magirus are simply not available(not yet).
So I stick to this Mercedes L4500A converted with Plus Model set.
As mentioned, I did this one before, joining the Steel Wheels campaign on Armorama, think around 2012 / 2013, and I had a lot of fun with this excellent couple of kits building up a Rail Truck.
Have a nice weekend.

Kind regards,

Robert Jan
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Posted: Friday, June 14, 2019 - 08:19 AM UTC
Cargo looks fantastic Robert. This build is going to be sensational.

..as to James Marshall Hendrix, well how do you pick a favourite?
"Excuse me while I kiss this guy" - really, how do they get the lyric sooo wrong....



The original first performance... Ezy Rider
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9g6ngaWNAE