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Armor/AFV: IDF [Israeli Defense Forces]
Armor and AFVs of the IDF army from 1947-today.
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Posted: Thursday, December 28, 2017 - 12:31 AM UTC
I wonder what might be the story behind the Nato Camo on the tanktrailer in phot 1285.
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Posted: Thursday, December 28, 2017 - 12:46 AM UTC

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I wonder what might be the story behind the Nato Camo on the tanktrailer in phot 1285.



US aid/leftover...?



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Posted: Thursday, December 28, 2017 - 01:11 AM UTC
Perhaps, but it has IDF number plate painted on.
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Posted: Thursday, December 28, 2017 - 02:04 PM UTC

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Perhaps, but it has IDF number plate painted on.



US sourced used military equipment sometimes retains the camouflage of the previous user.

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Posted: Thursday, December 28, 2017 - 06:50 PM UTC
Pic 1291 - Did the Israeli's use the ITV or was this just a trials vehicle?

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Posted: Thursday, December 28, 2017 - 07:16 PM UTC

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Pic 1291 - Did the Israeli's use the ITV or was this just a trials vehicle?



Good question. It was used for...something. I don't think it actually saw service in the IDF. Nevertheless, the vehicle(s) apparently stayed in Israel as one of them is on display in Latrun (might be even the very same vehicle pictured here); there's another one dumped somewhere in the Hermon.

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Posted: Friday, December 29, 2017 - 06:13 PM UTC
Early MK.II, probably converted from Mk.I

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Mk.IIB with Mk.IID type tracks

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Urban combat training

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'Erez' is the main crossing to the Gaza Strip

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Used tires layed down for crossing tarmac

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Armor recovery school

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'Nochri Dalet' equipped MK.IIB. Note the TOW equipped Hummer in the background.

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Droid and LIC equipped Mk.IIB

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Posted: Friday, December 29, 2017 - 07:04 PM UTC
Towing the 'Backtrail' logistic trailer (more about 'Backtrail': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B--yo8PEfJE )

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Posted: Friday, December 29, 2017 - 07:19 PM UTC
Scrap (heavy) metal

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Posted: Sunday, December 31, 2017 - 12:39 AM UTC

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Pic 1291 - Did the Israeli's use the ITV or was this just a trials vehicle?



Good question. It was used for...something. I don't think it actually saw service in the IDF. Nevertheless, the vehicle(s) apparently stayed in Israel as one of them is on display in Latrun (might be even the very same vehicle pictured here); there's another one dumped somewhere in the Hermon.

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Looks like that vehicle is out of service. Always thought the ITV was a good piece of kit (at least in a defensive role). Dig it in and just the "hammerhead" site is visible.
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Posted: Monday, January 01, 2018 - 03:59 PM UTC
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Reservists, by the look of them...
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Posted: Monday, January 01, 2018 - 04:11 PM UTC
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The Swedish heavy metal band 'Sabaton' visiting a Mk.IIB equipped heavy metal IDF unit during their tour in 2012

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Posted: Wednesday, January 03, 2018 - 05:23 PM UTC
The add-on modular composite armor equipped Mk.IID

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Posted: Friday, January 05, 2018 - 11:46 PM UTC

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The add-on modular composite armor equipped Mk.IID

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Never really noticed what a low profile the Merkava's turret has. Must be real plus if you are fighting from a hull-down position.
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Posted: Thursday, January 11, 2018 - 09:00 PM UTC
A Mk.IID is towing a Mk.IIB

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Posted: Friday, January 12, 2018 - 10:15 PM UTC
All those cutting edge tanks and they are still using -113's! I know those pics go back a few years, does the IDF still have those tracks in service?
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Posted: Friday, January 12, 2018 - 10:31 PM UTC

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All those cutting edge tanks and they are still using -113's! I know those pics go back a few years, does the IDF still have those tracks in service?



They're still quiet common in rear-echelon ordnance, medical, logistic and command units, as well as in reserve infantry units. Mind you, the IDF still has thousands of them. The Merkava Mk.II based Ofek is a good candidate to replace (at least some of those) those ancient M113s.

Regular front-line infantry units use almost exclusively HAPCs these days: Achzarits, Nagmachons, Nakpadons, Namers, and in the (very) near future , Eitans too. Regular, as well as reserve combat engineers units use Pumas.
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Posted: Saturday, January 13, 2018 - 12:46 PM UTC
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Posted: Monday, January 15, 2018 - 08:41 PM UTC
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Posted: Monday, January 15, 2018 - 10:13 PM UTC
Photos 1380 & 81, spray foam under the belly armor ?

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Posted: Monday, January 15, 2018 - 10:21 PM UTC

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Photos 1380 & 81, spray foam under the belly armor ?



Looks like it...
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Posted: Monday, January 15, 2018 - 10:54 PM UTC
I just love the looks of the 2Ds... Awesome looking machine!!!



Perhaps the foam is used for stabilising the belly armor so that it does not shake and rattle while on the move.
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Posted: Monday, January 15, 2018 - 11:55 PM UTC

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I just love the looks of the 2Ds... Awesome looking machine!!!



Perhaps the foam is used for stabilising the belly armor so that it does not shake and rattle while on the move.



or simply to seal the edges and stop sand and dust from getting in between the armour and the belly of the chassis?
/ Robin
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Posted: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 - 12:06 AM UTC

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or simply to seal the edges and stop sand and dust from getting in between the armour and the belly of the chassis?



That would be my guess too, although it doesn't seem to be a common practice.