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BREM-2 recovery vehicle
dutik
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Posted: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 - 09:28 AM GMT+7
Time to build one model that you see not that often: a BREM-2 conversion made by SP Designs.

The BREM-2 is the recovery version of the BMP-1/2 family. The turret was removed and replaced with a winch, complimented by a crane, an open storage box and everything else useful to pull a BMP out of a bog or to replace the drivetrain and other larger parts of the vehicle. Armament is reduced to a pintle mounted light MG at the commanders hatch. Gunports are welded shut, most of the vision devices removed.

Here we go: SP Designs conversion set and the donor kit, a chinese BMP clone - the chapest BMP body available by Trumpeter.



Enjoy
- dutik
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Posted: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 - 09:32 AM GMT+7
First step: Mating the resin upper hull with the styrene lower body, filling all gaps and seams and sanding the whole thing smooth. The SP part is a drop fit after a very small amount of sanding at the styrene sponsons.



Enjoy
- dutik
Jacques
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Posted: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 - 10:39 AM GMT+7
Watching this with interest.
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Posted: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 - 11:19 AM GMT+7
Ditto.
One of my favorite BMP mod's...
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Posted: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 - 08:47 PM GMT+7
Great mod! Looking forward to more!
dutik
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Posted: Thursday, July 20, 2017 - 06:53 AM GMT+7
Sanded all seams smooth and building up the running gear:




Trumpeters PE is strong as steel. There are also no bending lines. Tried to bend the bumper guards but it didn't work proper. So I made my own gurads from styrene.

Enjoy
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Posted: Thursday, July 20, 2017 - 08:09 AM GMT+7
Heat the brass over a flame for a couple of minutes, it should help some.
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Posted: Thursday, July 20, 2017 - 08:19 AM GMT+7
Hi Dutik,

That is a very interesting subject indeed!

Regards,

Maher
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Posted: Thursday, July 20, 2017 - 08:29 AM GMT+7
Been thinking of getting one of these conversion kits for a while.Will be watching with great interest to see how this looks when finished.
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Posted: Thursday, July 20, 2017 - 04:39 PM GMT+7
I like these Recovery Conversions. Good putty work.




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Posted: Friday, July 21, 2017 - 12:52 AM GMT+7

Quoted Text

Heat the brass over a flame for a couple of minutes, it should help some.



Thank you for pointing out to this technique. I should have mentioned it, or why I did not use it.

The Trumpeter PE is like the stainless steel PE from the first Dragon kits decades ago, so I am familiar with annealing PE parts or steel cables. But with a styrene body it was for me just a simpler approach to cut and drill a few styrene strips and glue them with Tamiya cement, saving me some more hassling with superglue


@sanding

Guess I mastered the technique of wet sanding. Simply used coarse grain wet sanding paper, a handle and some water and anything worked like a charm without the need for finer grit or polishing afterwards.

Regards
- dutik
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Posted: Saturday, July 22, 2017 - 01:13 AM GMT+7



Started to add the exterior details. I boxed in the exhaust before mating the hull halves, but it is not really nessessairy given the shutters inside and the tight mesh on top if you paint the insides black. The conversion requires to use a lot of styrene parts from the donor kit. I replaced some of the styrene for wire. Tow cable is the light modern soviet one from Accurate Armour. To avoid a burnout due to the sheer number of small parts involved I divided the exterior build into subassemblies: 3 tow cable assemblies, storage boxes, top box, commanders hatch, bow plate, recovery equipment. Well, I finished one tow cable assembly and started the recovery equipment. Good feeling to have finished something!

Regards
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Posted: Monday, July 24, 2017 - 03:19 AM GMT+7


Completed the rear deck: cargo box, tow bars and pulleys, empty tow cable holders, handles and tiedowns, the duct for the winch cable and other parts. The cargo box as given in the conversion is like at display vehicles. Simply welded shut sides without hinges and handles. Added the hinges, handles and other stuff as per service vehicles.

Enjoy
- dutik
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Posted: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 - 01:18 AM GMT+7


Added the light guards and the entrenching blade. Found an image that shows the entrenching blade in working condition. The common images (Vitaly Kuzmin; Kiev Memorial) are of museum vehicles that are missing parts. Added some more pulleys and stuff to the roof. Also had to take off and relocate some parts because I found more images that show more of the layout. Of course after I glued the parts the first time... Got the the last tow cable finished (2 supports at left and right front are with a cable, the third at the left roof is empty).

Regards
- dutik
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Posted: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 - 03:23 AM GMT+7
Fitters and Recovery Vehicles, some of my favorites!

Worked around M728, 578 and M88's. Drove the 578. Even had a few derelict BMPs in the bone yard at the Patton but have never seen this one before. Following with interest!
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Posted: Thursday, July 27, 2017 - 03:07 AM GMT+7


The bow is ready. Left the headlights off for painting. Used soft copper wire for the blade supports and spliced cable eyes for the upper mounts. Went lazy at the blades mounting points by just gluing the wire from behind
The right support for the trim went went off during initial sanding so I made a replacement from styrene card.

Expect now a short break of this build for the weekend.

Regards
- dutik
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Posted: Sunday, July 30, 2017 - 03:44 AM GMT+7
Ready!



Close-up of the rear:



Close-up of the front:



The support for the commanders MG was hard to glue in place - on top of two periscopes. Very small space to do so, so I glued sheet styrene to the back faces of the periscopes to enlarge the top face. It worked. The two brass parts are the hndle for the searchlight (lost the styrene part...) and the power line.
SP Designs provides two identical support loops for the cargo box. The real things are handed, so I cut off the hinge and lock from one andmade new ones at the correct sides. Also detailed the locks a bit with small nuts and wire. The support loops were pinned with fine wire (0,5 mm) to the sockets. It is a bit complicated to drill fine holes close to the outer rim of the sockets, but the results are worth the extra work.

Well, ready to add surfacer, polish off scratches and to start painting.

Regards
- dutik
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Posted: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 - 07:11 AM GMT+7
Painting. But how?

Plain soviet green is always an option. But there are more choices:

The current russian camouflage with sand and black offers a lot of tonal variation. The green base ranges from olive to dark green. The sand has a lot of variations from yellow (close to zinc chromate!) over sand and greyish sand to a light brown. At least the black is more or less a kind of dark grey.

Here is also one in Charkov in green and sand. This one is also in working conditon and shows a lot of details that are lacking at museum display vehicles.

The Oryx blog shows BREM vehicles in Syria both in plain green and plain sand, just as a BREM or armed with a ZPU of your choice and even a 37mm AAA...

But my choice is finally the other soviet tricolor camo: Green with grey and black.

Enjoy
- dutik
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Posted: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 - 01:16 AM GMT+7
dutik - Excellent reference in those walk-arounds!

Is that forward plow/spade dropped manually when needed or is it a powered arrangement in some way?
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Posted: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 - 05:55 AM GMT+7
I don't know for sure but there are no pulleys, levers or hydraulic cylinders visible. So I think the blade is lowerd and lifted up with the help of the recovery winch of the vehicle. The frontal return pulley is just above the tip of the blade, and images show some small holes in the tip to fit the hook. This would do the trick.

Regards
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Posted: Thursday, August 03, 2017 - 05:12 AM GMT+7
Something went wrong with the Humbrol maskol:



The paint peeled off...


Don't know why. Used Humbrol maskol the last builds without problems, regardless if Tamiya acryl or Lifecolor acryl paint. But here it peeled off the Tamiya paint. Odd. Maybe because I thinned the Tamiya acryl with Tamiya enamel thinner? Did so the first time. Makes airbrushing a really easy task compared to Tamya acryl thinner, but maybe the paint adheres less well in comparision? Don't know...

Regards
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Posted: Thursday, August 03, 2017 - 07:28 AM GMT+7
I am assuming you washed the model with hot water and liquid dish soap before applying paint? Resin has mold release agents on it.
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Posted: Thursday, August 03, 2017 - 08:15 AM GMT+7
No, I didn't, but this is of course always a good advice. I used a good amount of Tamiya primer, which forms the whitish coat showing through the paint. The primer is still in place. Only the paint above went off.

Nevertheless, used this accidend to apply again some light gray and to correct the shape of the camo as well as to apply paint to places I missed the first time. And I used this time Tamiya tape only.

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Posted: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 - 04:48 AM GMT+7


More painting. Fixed the peeled-off areas. Lots of masking to do, not so easy due to a myriad of small saised details all over the surface. Masks didn't stick well in some of these places, so I have to airbrush a second time to remove overspray at demarcation lines. As always - painting requires more time than the whole building

Enjoy
- dutik
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Posted: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 - 01:13 PM GMT+7
Nice recovery... hah get it?.. but seriously, look good now.