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T34 Night in the Ruts
Bravo1102
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Posted: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 - 05:09 PM GMT+7
Should be two cables. Pull on one and the tank could spin around in the mud and not go anywhere and worse one cable would have too much stress and snap.

The guys would be pitching in, literally, throwing in wood, blankets and straw for the the tank to get traction. Or better yet those cleats nicely stored in the fender. Thats what they're there for. Not just snow. That along with the tow hooks, other cable and jack and the blocks on the back fender would be thrown into the mix to get the tank out. And somebody has to have a pry bar. The ubiquitous tanker tool, the tanker's bar.

As said above the broken track would at least be tied together using the "u" hooks and a rope to work them back on while pulling the tank forward.

By the way, the preferred method for self recovery is to use the "u" hooks, cable put around a log and the track. Drive forward, the log goes under the vehicle allowing it to clear the mud. That's why Russian tanks invariably have unditching logs and tow cables.
Stickframe
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Posted: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 - 05:27 PM GMT+7
Hi guys - thanks for checking in!

Frederick, thanks! The mud has been interesting to try and figure out!

Tim and Stephen - One of the best parts of this forum is picking up good info! I'm sure both of your observations are spot on. Who knows? Maybe I'll try another "night in the ruts" some day (with better info at hand!)... As for this, the plan focused on the tank and mud and making it look reasonably convincing - just wish I knew what you guys did before I started!

As for those figs...uhh, yeah, they are not top of the shelf resin...which is ok...I didn't want to spend too much on this build - good painting practice anyway..we'll see - maybe it will be ok when it's done - who knows?

What to do now? I'm going to finish it and place it among other finished projects - it will soon become "night in the dust".. tho it is a bummer to know what I'm building is...not right....

As for next steps, I will finish the terrain, adding more mud and eventually water - at this point I'm just curious to know if I can.

Thanks for taking the time to leave some good info!

Cheers
Nick
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Posted: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 - 10:15 PM GMT+7
Hey Nick no no the only reason I pitched in then was because I think its easily amendable & as Id hoped Stephen knows what hes talking about better than I.
Just lose the infantry & spend 20 bucks or so on one of those great MinArt tank crews who can be knee-deep around the tracks preparing for or arguing about - the tow, with a few generic tools & a 2nd cable lying around. Besides, to have the figs up to their knees in it wld only amplify your focus, the mud itself
kurnuy
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Posted: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 - 06:49 AM GMT+7
Hi Nick ,

yes nice work so far . I like the tank and the muddy scene , so i've bookmarked it.

Don't forget to keep this hot and i won't forget to check in from time to time .

Kurt
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Posted: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 - 11:00 AM GMT+7
Hi Kurt - glad you could spend a minute and drop by!

This is one is done - it has been now for a couple of weeks - but work has been kicking my A$&!! eating up lots of time and my patience - but, the dude abides.....

Please see below - I finished this up generally as I planned to - but, Stephen, I scratch built some tools and some cable rope - you'll see. And Tim, these are the figures I started with - I pulled one guy off the tank and he received some surgery - he went from sitting to walking - with a few big cuts and lots of putty -

At this point, I can't speak to the accuracy of the representation (per previous comments above) but like the results, but I do like the way the mud etc worked out, which was the basic goal. After this posting, this model will make it's way to dio limbo...where it will sit! with it's friends, the other finished projects! If anybody wants a dio or two cheap, let me know!

OK, on to the build





















OK- there you have it! this one's done! thanks for taking a look!

Nick


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Posted: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 - 11:23 AM GMT+7
Hi Nick,
That Pаспу́тица really looks the part! Very nice work all around!
Image No. 3 dialog

Cheers!🍺
mike
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Posted: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 - 11:24 AM GMT+7
Nick this turned out great, really makes one feel for the poor tank operator who drove right in to a muddy ditch in the road.
well done Sir!

Dave
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Posted: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 - 01:04 PM GMT+7
Very nice story telling. The mud looks like mud and with wet dirt




jrutman
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Posted: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 - 01:05 PM GMT+7
Very very very cool ! That mud looks great and everything looks very believable. Nice one man,
J
Bravo1102
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Posted: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 - 04:46 PM GMT+7
You got it. Came out great. Love that guy splashing through the mud, the one with the tow cable and the tanker's bar. Great job. Really tells the story of tankers doing a tough job under trying circumstances.
cheyenne
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Posted: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 - 09:55 PM GMT+7
What's up Nick ?
This turned out great the mud work is exceptional and the scene tells a cool story .
Dioramartin
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Posted: Friday, August 11, 2017 - 12:55 AM GMT+7
Great job Nick, you are the Rasputin of rasputitsa (but dont go saying that to the girls at the bar)

Stickframe
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Posted: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 - 08:01 PM GMT+7
Hey guys - thanks for taking the time to drop by and leave some words - I really appreciate it! In the mean time, work and life are giving me a run for my money...maybe inspiration for the next build?....maybe the reason for still building more and more...who knows....

I'm glad I seem to have been able to "save" this one - between lack of time and knowledge of the subject, I was getting a bit worried -

Hi Mike - thanks! Yes...the Russian muddy mud! No fun at all - interesting build tho - and the mud turned out better than expected!

Hey Dave - yeah, the fun of a big or little dio - in this case showing the problem and exasperation! Of both me and the tank operator!

Hi KSO - thanks very much - a bit of a challenge to figure out - without lots of "props" and still demonstrate something credible!

Hi Jerry - thanks, I appreciate your words! The mud and rest of it - coordinating it all was fun - and finally, I'm not overtly embarrassed by the figures! You've said it several times....practice!!

Hi Stephen - thanks very much - I took your earlier words seriously and I think they really helped make this build convincing! I appreciate you sharing your insights! As for the guys - muddy guys....stuck dealing with all! - like me too...haha

Hey Cheyenne - yeah...what's up...my life feels a bit like that t-34 and crew looks - stuck in the deep mud with a thrown track! Lol - as Jerry has told us before - "keep marching and don't get bunched up!!! Words to live by...haha

Hi Tim - yeah, thanks to you too - I thought about your comments and tried to take cues from them - in the spirit of the intent of the project! Thanks, bro -

Ok - this one's already collecting dust and a new one in the works...model on!!

Or at least keep marching and don't get (mentally) bunched up!!

Happy trails guys - and thanks again - I appreciate it!

Nick
kurnuy
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Posted: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 - 06:22 AM GMT+7
Hi Nick ,

i have to echo the others , it looks very dynamic to me well done .

Kurt