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Trumpeter: SA-4 Ganef
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Posted: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 - 09:27 PM GMT+7


Here is a look at what Trumpeter has put in the box of its previously announced kit.

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Thanks!
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Posted: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 - 09:44 PM GMT+7
Nice! Maybe can start hoping for a P-40/1S12 in the same scale and plastic, as well...

Interesting that all Google images show this in plain green livery... There was really no camo scheme applied to these!?
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Posted: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 - 11:24 PM GMT+7
No. These were normally deployed with SS-1C missile setups. Here is a "redacted" CIA document about the SA-4 and the support vehicles that were used:

https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP78T04759A009500010036-4.pdf
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Posted: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 - 11:43 PM GMT+7
The stencils quantity is impressive.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 - 11:45 PM GMT+7
Is the missile body molded as one piece?! Impressive
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Posted: Thursday, May 18, 2017 - 04:00 AM GMT+7

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No. These were normally deployed with SS-1C missile setups. Here is a "redacted" CIA document about the SA-4 and the support vehicles that were used:

https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP78T04759A009500010036-4.pdf



??? That CIA document doesn't say that at all. It says the layout and construction of SA-4 barracks was similar to that used for SS-1 SCUD launcher barracks.

KL
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Posted: Thursday, May 18, 2017 - 04:36 AM GMT+7

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No. These were normally deployed with SS-1C missile setups. Here is a "redacted" CIA document about the SA-4 and the support vehicles that were used:

https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP78T04759A009500010036-4.pdf



??? That CIA document doesn't say that at all. It says the layout and construction of SA-4 barracks was similar to that used for SS-1 SCUD launcher barracks.

KL



No, the CIA document doesn't say that. Nor did I claim that it did. I claimed that the CIA document was about the SA-4 and laid out the support vehicles.
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Posted: Thursday, May 18, 2017 - 05:39 AM GMT+7
Panzershop conversion for Trumpeter AT-Tplastic kit 1/35 scale...
http://www.panzershop.cz/inshop/
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Posted: Thursday, May 18, 2017 - 06:02 AM GMT+7
Oh well! This is when a system does not know why it is ... Most of the 3M8 missiles are used to make the model, and no sharp words (paint and stencil) are heard from the sharp missiles, and most of the vehicles are decorated with a delight (East German force ). There is no need to know that 3M8 had a longer combat section, and in addition to the M1 / ​​2/3 sharp missiles, the same variants had a model for practice, which was made from different materials and different stains (eg in Hungary 2 types of exercise weight and working Weight training model). The original and sharp rockets in aluminum and steel burner have been using more serious metal, with the outlet cover metal. The same thing with practicing missiles has been made from more common, cheaper materials that are rusty. For example, the practicing model outlet cover is plastic, its surface is rough (steel and flat), usually red (to clearly indicate its not true). Stencil labels, numbers: These are made with factory templates, in original Russian language on all rocket launchers, in strictly defined ways and places. The letter types did not really hit them.
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Posted: Thursday, May 18, 2017 - 06:04 AM GMT+7
http://modelist-konstruktor.com/img/5759/1.jpg
http://modelist-konstruktor.com/img/5759/2.jpg
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Posted: Thursday, May 18, 2017 - 11:12 AM GMT+7

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Nice! Maybe can start hoping for a P-40/1S12 in the same scale and plastic, as well...

Interesting that all Google images show this in plain green livery... There was really no camo scheme applied to these!?



Be careful what you wish for Cristian

http://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=25197&mode=thread&order=0

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Posted: Thursday, May 18, 2017 - 02:51 PM GMT+7
Wow! More cool, impressive Soviet equipment!
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Posted: Thursday, May 18, 2017 - 04:57 PM GMT+7
the first time the missile every deployed outside of the USSR was in egypt in 1969,was chassic paint in sand color or standard soviet green?
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Posted: Thursday, May 18, 2017 - 06:35 PM GMT+7

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Panzershop conversion for Trumpeter AT-Tplastic kit 1/35 scale...
http://www.panzershop.cz/inshop/




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Nice! Maybe can start hoping for a P-40/1S12 in the same scale and plastic, as well...

Interesting that all Google images show this in plain green livery... There was really no camo scheme applied to these!?



Be careful what you wish for Cristian

http://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=25197&mode=thread&order=0




That's the reason I said plastic
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Posted: Thursday, May 18, 2017 - 07:02 PM GMT+7
It has never been so. /Egypt/

Look at the modernized copies of the Polish army.
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Posted: Thursday, May 18, 2017 - 07:07 PM GMT+7

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Posted: Thursday, May 18, 2017 - 07:42 PM GMT+7
Those look good! Köszi Gábor!

Do you know what has been "modernized" on them? I wonder if the changes are significant compared to what could be built from the kit (I know, that kit was not seen yet).
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Posted: Friday, May 19, 2017 - 12:31 AM GMT+7
Changing the wire from analog to digital systems has made a few things, and the rockets have been innovated, rockets have got a gray color, the bullet and heat exposed metal remained clean / stainless steel. The system's vehicles are equipped with 3 colors / stained / stained / grayish black, brown and light green / externally perhaps only SNR / 1S32 / systems change, the old analog TOV-TV target monitoring and tracking system has been replaced by a modern thermal imager , Digital camera and laser range finder unit.
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Posted: Friday, May 19, 2017 - 09:47 AM GMT+7

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Panzershop conversion for Trumpeter AT-Tplastic kit 1/35 scale...
http://www.panzershop.cz/inshop/




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Nice! Maybe can start hoping for a P-40/1S12 in the same scale and plastic, as well...

Interesting that all Google images show this in plain green livery... There was really no camo scheme applied to these!?



Be careful what you wish for Cristian

http://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=25197&mode=thread&order=0




That's the reason I said plastic



Plastic !! I am getting Wood on this one , just hope I live long enough to build it
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Posted: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 - 05:40 AM GMT+7
Looks like a prop from a 1960s era sci-fi, or something from Thunderbirds!
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Posted: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 - 06:24 PM GMT+7
Pre-orders start popping up but the price is... I sure wasn't expecting that range!
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Posted: Saturday, May 27, 2017 - 02:10 AM GMT+7

Trumpeter

Real 3M8M