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Posted: Sunday, April 16, 2017 - 02:33 AM UTC
I have been a modeler for a few years now, but I always get a headache from the glue. I am in a room with a window and a fan. Any tips safety wise so that I can continue to enjoy this hobby. Without losing a few brain cells. Thank you.
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Posted: Sunday, April 16, 2017 - 02:38 AM UTC
Crack the window and point the fan, towards it.
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Posted: Sunday, April 16, 2017 - 02:57 AM UTC
What kind of glue are you using?

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Posted: Sunday, April 16, 2017 - 03:25 AM UTC
Also get your blood pressure checked as it may not be the glue. Guess how I know that.
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Posted: Sunday, April 16, 2017 - 06:13 AM UTC
I have been doing that
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Also get your blood pressure checked as it may not be the glue. Guess how I know that.

Sorry I do not understand.
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Posted: Sunday, April 16, 2017 - 09:34 AM UTC

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Also get your blood pressure checked as it may not be the glue. Guess how I know that.

Sorry I do not understand.



Because high blood pressure can cause symptoms similar to inhaling solvents. Both cause dizziness and headaches. You may think it's the glue, but it could be something entirely different-- don't take a chance and go get your BP checked
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Posted: Sunday, April 16, 2017 - 10:21 AM UTC
As stated before, what kind of glue are you using?
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Also get your blood pressure checked as it may not be the glue. Guess how I know that.

Sorry I do not understand.



Because high blood pressure can cause symptoms similar to inhaling solvents. Both cause dizziness and headaches. You may think it's the glue, but it could be something entirely different-- don't take a chance and go get your BP checked
VR, Russ



Ah ok. I will try that out. But I highly doubt that is the cause.
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As stated before, what kind of glue are you using?

I apologize for not responding sooner. I use tamyia extra thin, and recently started using tamyia Limonene cement, both giving me headaches.
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Posted: Sunday, April 16, 2017 - 06:42 PM UTC

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I have been a modeler for a few years now, but I always get a headache from the glue. I am in a room with a window and a fan. Any tips safety wise so that I can continue to enjoy this hobby. Without losing a few brain cells. Thank you.



Correlation doesn't equal causation. Headaches can come from anywhere. Do you consume caffeine when model building? Do you build models so much you skip meals? Are you straining your eyes to see lots of tiny things?

Are you allergic to something coming in through your open window? Once the pollen starts flying I have all kinds of headaches and I know it's not necessarily the glue. Then there's the cup of tea I have next to me and my ever changing middle-aged eyesight.

Super glues on the other hand irritate me to the point where I often have to leave the room with tearing eyes.

And I am susceptible to sinus headaches and migraines and again that has nothing to do with glue. I had to get a complete neurological work-up because of some head injuries. And it ain't the glue. My head is just messed up.

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Posted: Sunday, April 16, 2017 - 07:03 PM UTC

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I have been a modeler for a few years now, but I always get a headache from the glue. I am in a room with a window and a fan. Any tips safety wise so that I can continue to enjoy this hobby. Without losing a few brain cells. Thank you.



Correlation doesn't equal causation. Headaches can come from anywhere. Do you consume caffeine when model building? Do you build models so much you skip meals? Are you straining your eyes to see lots of tiny things?

Are you allergic to something coming in through your open window? Once the pollen starts flying I have all kinds of headaches and I know it's not necessarily the glue. Then there's the cup of tea I have next to me and my ever changing middle-aged eyesight.

Super glues on the other hand irritate me to the point where I often have to leave the room with tearing eyes.

And I am susceptible to sinus headaches and migraines and again that has nothing to do with glue. I had to get a complete neurological work-up because of some head injuries. And it ain't the glue. My head is just messed up.




Fair point. I do watch a movie while modelling. I also handle tiny parts. Thank you for your answer, I am going to isolate the variables and see what is the cause.
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Posted: Sunday, April 16, 2017 - 07:36 PM UTC
Also check your lighting, too much, too little, incandescent vs florescent. I can't stand florescent, when working with small parts it gives me headaches. Found that out after buying a nice magnifying/florescent lamp.

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Posted: Sunday, April 16, 2017 - 08:08 PM UTC
One other issue you might think about is the amount of liquids you drink-- if you spend hours at the work bench, without taking a drink, you can become dehydrated which will also cause headaches-- so you see, as others have mentioned, there are any number of reasons you could be having headaches besides glue. I know other modelers will likely suggest generators libations of alcoholic beverages here-- but those only make it worse. I've used Tamiya extra thin for years without any problems-- but I also use Walthers Pro-weld and Testors liquid cement. The aerosolization of these glues is rapid, but unless you have your nose right in them, or you have an extreme sensitivity to them, it's doubtful they are the sole cause of your problem. Are you sensitive to any other solvents-- like lacquer thinner for example?
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With liquid solvents, keeping the lid on until you absolutely need access is one way to reduce the fume effect, along with good ventilation as others have said. It's tempting to leave the bottle open between glue applications for convenience, but that nasty stuff is constantly evaporating into the air you breathe...

And when looking at your work environment, don't forget the furniture! If you are hunched over the bench in an uncomfortable chair, your spine is being stressed and that can lead to headaches. So can tipping your head down all the time. (As if you don't have enough variables to eliminate already! ) Just sitting still for hours can be bad too - best to find an excuse to get up and move every 10-15mins, like getting a drink, or fetching a dropped part back from the jaws of the Carpet Monster. We just aren't built for sedentary living!
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One other issue you might think about is the amount of liquids you drink-- if you spend hours at the work bench, without taking a drink, you can become dehydrated which will also cause headaches-- so you see, as others have mentioned, there are any number of reasons you could be having headaches besides glue. I know other modelers will likely suggest generators libations of alcoholic beverages here-- but those only make it worse. I've used Tamiya extra thin for years without any problems-- but I also use Walthers Pro-weld and Testors liquid cement. The aerosolization of these glues is rapid, but unless you have your nose right in them, or you have an extreme sensitivity to them, it's doubtful they are the sole cause of your problem. Are you sensitive to any other solvents-- like lacquer thinner for example?
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Yep, I guess I do tend to go building for hours without drinking water. I will try and increase my fluid intake and see how that goes. But I have noticed I am sensitive to lacquer/ enamel thinner. I really appreciate your feedback. Thank you
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Posted: Sunday, April 16, 2017 - 08:32 PM UTC

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With liquid solvents, keeping the lid on until you absolutely need access is one way to reduce the fume effect, along with good ventilation as others have said. It's tempting to leave the bottle open between glue applications for convenience, but that nasty stuff is constantly evaporating into the air you breathe...

And when looking at your work environment, don't forget the furniture! If you are hunched over the bench in an uncomfortable chair, your spine is being stressed and that can lead to headaches. So can tipping your head down all the time. (As if you don't have enough variables to eliminate already! ) Just sitting still for hours can be bad too - best to find an excuse to get up and move every 10-15mins, like getting a drink, or fetching a dropped part back from the jaws of the Carpet Monster. We just aren't built for sedentary living!



The tipping of the head seems like a problem I have. I guess I have to keep my nose up . The 10-15 min breaks make a lot of sense aswell. Thank you very much for your input.I think it will help.
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Posted: Sunday, April 16, 2017 - 08:37 PM UTC

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Also check your lighting, too much, too little, incandescent vs florescent. I can't stand florescent, when working with small parts it gives me headaches. Found that out after buying a nice magnifying/florescent lamp.




I guess I could try which one works best. I never thought lighting could be an issue. will give it a try. Thank you for the advice
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Also check your lighting, too much, too little, incandescent vs florescent. I can't stand florescent, when working with small parts it gives me headaches. Found that out after buying a nice magnifying/florescent lamp.




I guess I could try which one works best. I never thought lighting could be an issue. will give it a try. Thank you for the advice




A few years ago I "cured" a colleagues back ache. I was sort of involved in the responsibility for a healthy work environment so he asked me if the back ache could be caused by a bad chair or desk or wrong heights or whatever. Next time I passed his room I checked how he was sitting without him being aware that I watched him. Then I asked him if he had gotten a new display/screen for his computer. The answer was yes. The I changed the resolution of his screen to give a little better contras and slightly larger letters so that he could sit up properly and still read the screen properly. Then his backache went away ...
/ Robin
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Finally figured it put. It is a mix of lack of fluids,hunger,posture and eye strain. But the fumes dont help either lol.
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Well, nobody ever said sniffing lacquer fumes was a good thing...