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M577
JohnTapsell
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Posted: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 - 10:13 AM GMT+7
I decided to resurrect an old shelf-queen over the weekend. I haven't done any work on this in the past four or five years and I decided it was time to get the old girl completed. What you see below is mostly the work I'd already done.

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HeavyArty
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Posted: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 - 10:51 AM GMT+7
That is looking really nice so far. Great job on the scratch interior. I did one a few years ago (has it been 9 years already?? ).
ReconTL3-1
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Posted: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 - 11:56 AM GMT+7
I like what you are doing so far. I have been wanting to make a M577 with the interior, but I am still developing the skills to do so. I will be watching this thread for pointers for sure.

Cheers,
James
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Posted: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 - 02:51 PM GMT+7
Great work, looks awesome. I have a question about the 577. Do they have the fuel cell in the back left corner like an M113a1? The pictures I saw don't have the rear fuel cells like the M113a3, so I'm just curious.
HeavyArty
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Posted: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 - 03:52 PM GMT+7
On the M577, the fuel tanks are down both sides of the hull beneath the work tables. They are long and flat, not a box like in a standard M113.

The long box in the below pic is the fuel tank, under the work table.
JohnTapsell
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Posted: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 - 07:44 PM GMT+7

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Great work, looks awesome. I have a question about the 577. Do they have the fuel cell in the back left corner like an M113a1? The pictures I saw don't have the rear fuel cells like the M113a3, so I'm just curious.



If you look at the photo that Gino posted you can see the fuel cell (and my photo shows it in plastic). I've also posted a link to one of the TM drawings that shows the fuel tank arrangement.

Regards,
John



http://operatormanuals.tpub.com/TM-9-2350-275-BD/TM-9-2350-275-BD0063im.jpg

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Posted: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 - 08:02 PM GMT+7
Wow, you did a great job on the interior. Very confident scratchbuilding. I know it is a long shot, but have you thought about making masters and casting these pieces?

The exterior got a fair amount of detail work as well.

Altogether a magnificent effort. Can't wait to see some paint on it.

Mario

BTW, I remember some of your previous models that I liked, but didn't save the photos for my own references. Do you have a website or some photo gallery where I can find your older models?
27-1025
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Posted: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 - 01:50 AM GMT+7
Very nice work. Much appreciate the in progress pictures. Look forward to seeing more.
Bricksy1969
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Posted: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 - 04:27 AM GMT+7
Great work

You doing an IDF or US version?

Paul
JohnTapsell
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Posted: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 - 09:07 AM GMT+7
The aim is to do a 1970s US Army vehicle, finished in the interim '7th Army' (or Masster) camouflage scheme - it's one of the options provided in the Tamiya kit. It's a scheme that I've never tried before but the big slab sides of the 577 are an ideal canvas on which to show it off.

Regards,
John
Kenaicop
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Posted: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 - 09:10 AM GMT+7
Love it John, been one of my goals for decades, scratch the interior of a 577. Some day...
Mendes
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Posted: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 - 11:27 AM GMT+7
Excellent upgrade.
roygdarwin
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Posted: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 - 11:30 AM GMT+7
great work,i have yet to buy this kit. will be watking till the finish.
JohnTapsell
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Posted: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 - 08:20 AM GMT+7
I got this beast finished about a month ago. There are a couple of errors* that have already been pointed out me and that I will be changing, but here it is as it stands.

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1) The figure is incorrectly dressed for the period and location as he is wearing jungle fatigues. I need to find a more appropriate 'European' option.

2) The hot drinks dispenser on the table came into service after the time period of the vehicle so again, I am working on an alternative option (probably a Mermite can).

The vehicle is finished in the 1970s MASSTER (aka 7th Army) scheme, used by USAREUR for about five years in the mid/late 1970s. If you have ever built the Tamiya M577 then you'll know that this scheme is an option in the kit.

Regards,
John








retiredyank
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Posted: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 - 08:55 AM GMT+7
Stunning.
HooFlungDung
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Posted: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 - 10:34 AM GMT+7
takes me back to my early years of building amour. Must have built several of these and Tamayas M106. Love modding and painting. First time I every saw the 70's Masters scheme. I really enjoyed those builds but I never came close to the build quality of your diorama.
Great job.
Bravo1102
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Posted: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 - 11:51 AM GMT+7
Awesome. Really captures the scheme and the gear carried.

An option on the figure, remove the pockets on the skirt of the shirt. That would depict a soldier in normal cotton fatigues with his shirt tails untucked. I've seen pictures of USAEUR troops in this era looking like that. The thigh pockets were present in older issue cotton fatigues as opposed to the poly-cotton permanent press ones.
gaz_ewart
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Posted: Friday, August 25, 2017 - 11:39 PM GMT+7
Lovely job.

Really nice finish. Wish there was an aftermarket M577 interior as I'm no scratch builder.

MASSTER looks really good too.
tankerken6011
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Posted: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 - 03:59 PM GMT+7
Very nice looking! Love the interior.
You mentioned fixing a couple of errors. The tank commander figure in several 1980s Tamiya kits (M1 Abrams, M2 and M3 Bradley) was dressed in the correct green fatigues, just swap out his head.
Verlinden and Legend have accessory sets that include the old Vietnam style drink dispenser.
Ken.
Garrand
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Posted: Thursday, December 07, 2017 - 05:51 AM GMT+7
I got one of these in the 'stash that I am planning on doing, though I'm going to cross-kit with an Academy M113. Planning on the same camo scheme too, but not brave enough to do an interior, haha!

Damon.
BruceJ8365
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Posted: Thursday, December 07, 2017 - 02:39 PM GMT+7

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1) The figure is incorrectly dressed for the period and location as he is wearing jungle fatigues. I need to find a more appropriate 'European' option.

The vehicle is finished in the 1970s MASSTER (aka 7th Army) scheme, used by USAREUR for about five years in the mid/late 1970s. If you have ever built the Tamiya M577 then you'll know that this scheme is an option in the kit.

Regards,
John












My favorite camo!

Good luck finding the 70s green uniform. Only ones I found are the guys that come in the original 577 kit, guy sitting in chair, another leaning in table. - the uniform w tucked in shirt, no cargo pockets, etc.

I did my 577 in that weird camo...




But MASSTR is my fav



thathaway3
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Posted: Monday, December 11, 2017 - 04:48 AM GMT+7

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Good luck finding the 70s green uniform. Only ones I found are the guys that come in the original 577 kit, guy sitting in chair, another leaning in table. - the uniform w tucked in shirt, no cargo pockets, etc.



My biggest gripe about the ENTIRE world of 1/35 armor modeling!

Not even considering troops stationed in the US, for over THIRTY years, the US Army had about 250,000 soldiers stationed in US Army Europe (USAREUR), and there are virtually NO FIGURES available depicting the standard "fatigues/baseball caps and steel pots" etc that the US Army wore during that cold war period prior to the introduction of the Kevlar/BDU field uniforms.

Hey I get the "Cold War wasn't a "glamorous shooting war" but that is a MAJOR period of time in which virtually NO US soldiers are available in either summer or winter uniforms.

jstarn
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Posted: Monday, December 11, 2017 - 04:59 AM GMT+7

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Good luck finding the 70s green uniform. Only ones I found are the guys that come in the original 577 kit, guy sitting in chair, another leaning in table. - the uniform w tucked in shirt, no cargo pockets, etc.



My biggest gripe about the ENTIRE world of 1/35 armor modeling!

Not even considering troops stationed in the US, for over THIRTY years, the US Army had about 250,000 soldiers stationed in US Army Europe (USAREUR), and there are virtually NO FIGURES available depicting the standard "fatigues/baseball caps and steel pots" etc that the US Army wore during that cold war period prior to the introduction of the Kevlar/BDU field uniforms.

Hey I get the "Cold War wasn't a "glamorous shooting war" but that is a MAJOR period of time in which virtually NO US soldiers are available in either summer or winter uniforms.





Amen, brother.
Kenaicop
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Posted: Monday, December 11, 2017 - 01:52 PM GMT+7

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Good luck finding the 70s green uniform. Only ones I found are the guys that come in the original 577 kit, guy sitting in chair, another leaning in table. - the uniform w tucked in shirt, no cargo pockets, etc.



My biggest gripe about the ENTIRE world of 1/35 armor modeling!

Not even considering troops stationed in the US, for over THIRTY years, the US Army had about 250,000 soldiers stationed in US Army Europe (USAREUR), and there are virtually NO FIGURES available depicting the standard "fatigues/baseball caps and steel pots" etc that the US Army wore during that cold war period prior to the introduction of the Kevlar/BDU field uniforms.

Hey I get the "Cold War wasn't a "glamorous shooting war" but that is a MAJOR period of time in which virtually NO US soldiers are available in either summer or winter uniforms.





Amen, brother.



What he said....
BruceJ8365
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Posted: Monday, December 11, 2017 - 02:54 PM GMT+7

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Good luck finding the 70s green uniform. Only ones I found are the guys that come in the original 577 kit, guy sitting in chair, another leaning in table. - the uniform w tucked in shirt, no cargo pockets, etc.



My biggest gripe about the ENTIRE world of 1/35 armor modeling!

Not even considering troops stationed in the US, for over THIRTY years, the US Army had about 250,000 soldiers stationed in US Army Europe (USAREUR), and there are virtually NO FIGURES available depicting the standard "fatigues/baseball caps and steel pots" etc that the US Army wore during that cold war period prior to the introduction of the Kevlar/BDU field uniforms.

Hey I get the "Cold War wasn't a "glamorous shooting war" but that is a MAJOR period of time in which virtually NO US soldiers are available in either summer or winter uniforms.





Amen, brother.



What he said....



Well it took 60 years to come out with an M48A1 to do an iconic depiction of the famous Check Point Charlie photos....

And just only recently did we get a decent M60 series kits.

Maybe in another 49 years well get some 1970s era figures.

(I still dont understand the modeling world fascination with the Nazi tanks - just bitter theres not that much attention paid to Cold War stuff)