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Armor/AFV: What If?
For those who like to build hypothetical or alternate history versions of armor/AFVs.
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German armor in Korean War
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Posted: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 - 11:59 PM UTC
And what if Napoleon had a B-52 bomber at the Battle of Waterloo.
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Posted: Thursday, January 26, 2017 - 01:00 AM UTC

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And what if Napoleon had a B-52 bomber at the Battle of Waterloo.


He wouldn't have the jet fuel to power it. 😖

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Posted: Thursday, January 26, 2017 - 02:42 AM UTC

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And what if Napoleon had a B-52 bomber at the Battle of Waterloo.



Unlikely, and not the best attempt of a joke
At those years the only flying objects in France were the baloons of the Montgolfier brothers, Andre Garmerin, and a few others...

A feasible What If scenario might be starting with the French reinforcements reaching the battlefield in time, and changing the result of the battle.
No need for strategic bombers, laser weapons or multidimensional portals...
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Posted: Thursday, January 26, 2017 - 03:57 AM UTC

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And what if Napoleon had a B-52 bomber at the Battle of Waterloo.



Unlikely, and not the best attempt of a joke
At those years the only flying objects in France were the baloons of the Montgolfier brothers, Andre Garmerin, and a few others...

A feasible What If scenario might be starting with the French reinforcements reaching the battlefield in time, and changing the result of the battle.
No need for strategic bombers, laser weapons or multidimensional portals...


back to Korea please
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Posted: Thursday, January 26, 2017 - 06:15 AM UTC

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And what if Napoleon had a B-52 bomber at the Battle of Waterloo.



Unlikely, and not the best attempt of a joke


It's not even an original joke. It's from a Saturday Night Live skit from 30 years ago. I always thought the other "What-if" skit was better. "What if Superman had landed in a country other than the US" That Nazi Uberman had me in stitches.

Back to Korea. I like the idea of the German armored cars. The ones with the 75s would have been useful.
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Posted: Thursday, January 26, 2017 - 08:21 AM UTC
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Pumas, has anyone mentioned Pumas so far? They were a good design and could have lived on until the 50ies, couldn't they?


A Puma type armored car would be reasonable given Germanys use of them through the war. I suspect any issues with them (if any) would be resolved by Korean war time, and the design could have lasted well past the 50's.
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Posted: Thursday, January 26, 2017 - 10:46 PM UTC
The germans liked wheeled scout vehicles even post WWII. The Luchs is basically "Puma on Steroids" and they even worked on a "Radpanzer 90" that used the Leopard 1A3/A4 turret (1 prototype build)

German Wiki

So variants of the 234 (maybe with closed roofed turrets - human waves and handgrenades are not funny with a cabrio) both with autocanon and more are quite possible. The 234 had good range and rifle-proof armor.
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Posted: Thursday, January 26, 2017 - 11:48 PM UTC

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The germans liked wheeled scout vehicles even post WWII. The Luchs is basically "Puma on Steroids" and they even worked on a "Radpanzer 90" that used the Leopard 1A3/A4 turret (1 prototype build)

German Wiki

So variants of the 234 (maybe with closed roofed turrets - human waves and handgrenades are not funny with a cabrio) both with autocanon and more are quite possible. The 234 had good range and rifle-proof armor.


Maybe with the sheet metal or expanded metal screens, initial. Sheet metal roofs were used on M36B2 that the ROK got in real life, and the Heer used Expanded Metal Screens on some of their open topped turrets for their Armored Cars and I think I might have seen a paper Panzer Tank with the 2.0cm Open Turret with Expanded metal screens. Diesel wasn't the primary fuel in Korea, as most nations still used gas/petrol in their military vehicles.
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Posted: Friday, January 27, 2017 - 01:02 AM UTC
Don't forget that any infantry figures, or indeed any others, could be depicted with the East German type helmet and the Leibermuster-type camouflage uniform, including helmet covers.

Personal weapons would be, as already identified in the original post, the Sturmgewehr 44; personal equipment mainly in canvas (which was happening I believe by the end of WW2 in any case).

'Could make for some interesting displays. All food for thought.
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