Very interesting - thank you for posting this very informative video. I was under the apparently mistaken impression that the first type of widened track (winterkette) had add-on extensions which increased the width of the standard track link but your video shows that both winterketten and ostketten links came from the factory as the wider link.
Posted: Saturday, December 17, 2016 - 01:14 PM UTC
No, Winterketten ARE Ostketten, and they didn't have bolt-ons like Sherman duckbills, they were one-piece castings that were only issued in the Fall and were supposed to be exchanged come Spring. Not sure if that really happened, though, as they sure would be useful in the mud!
I rarely watch Armorama videos (sorry, Jim Starkwether!) since, you know, time. Very glad I made an exception in this case! Well worth my time, and I'll have to watch again. BTW, did the Wehrmacht use the words Ost- & Winterketten as we use them now? As labels for the two track types, Winter- being the longer.
If you watched the video a distinction was made between winterketten and ostketten (13:34 on the video) - "very, very different types of tracks." I have also seen these being described as different in printed references as well.
Might have been wrong and for which I am suitable chastised, Still, I thought that they were synonymous and that the Ost term was more a slang than a descriptive as they were introduced to combat snow and, coincidentally, mud. Though those are kind of universal on all fronts at that stage of the war.
Thank you Adam, I watched the entire video this time and gained considerable insight. I had no idea that there could be that many variants of the Pz 3 and 4 track links! I still find it weird that the over-taxed German weapons manufacturers would take the time and effort to produce a track link like the 5A that was supposedly used only as supplemental armour when any kind of track link would suffice. As to welding or tacking them on, it was frowned upon as the armour was surface hardened and tack welding weakened that hardening process. Doesn't mean it didn't happen, just that it was against regulations to do so. Wiring them against the hull, or held on with racks were more acceptable means. If it spun away after being hit by a shell, so be it. Anyways, thanks for the video and I look forward to learning more in the future!
TOTALLY cool and informative video and much thanks to Adam for taking the time to make it. You can see his passion for the subject.
I did learn something... never knew about the hammerstollen and never seen (although knew Panther links had them) the mittelstollen actually installed on a link or they were even used on PIII tracks. The rest I pretty much knew from history books.
I guess old dawgs can learn something new after-all. We need more of these videos! Thanks.