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Posted: Sunday, December 18, 2016 - 10:14 PM UTC

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I am a bit confused though by the size of the tank compared to the figures.

Is it my eye or some kind of compression or something weird? I just don't see how the commander could fit inside the tank with a loader/gunner and driver.

I am not knocking the figures by any means. They are FANTASTIC and the painting of the tank is amazing. But even the guy on the horse seems a little out of scale.




Am I missing something?



here is a picture of a Panzer II to show the size next to some men

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Posted: Sunday, December 18, 2016 - 10:15 PM UTC
nice figure painting
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Posted: Sunday, December 18, 2016 - 10:20 PM UTC

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Those figures are amazing! You have great painting skills. What's your technique for painting faces? Also what make and colour do you use for the feldgrau tunic and the grey trousers?

Cheers

Matthew



Matthew
I did a thread on painting figures in the tips and tricks forum that attempts to answer your questions. take a look at it.
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Posted: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 - 04:21 AM UTC
this is more or less the composition of the next tank and soldiers getting aboard


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Posted: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 - 04:22 AM UTC
this is the soldier that was converted earlier now painted and another tank crewman.
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Posted: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 - 04:34 AM UTC
[quote]this is the soldier that was converted earlier now painted and another tank crewman.

Yep...
Coming along nicely Doug, and I have remembered and saved your tutorial on figures...although I'm still not sure I'll try oils

Can't say I'm not old school, cause I am, but I was afreared of oils back then...and not sure I'm ready to learn a new trick just yet

Love the work in progress though...
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Posted: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 - 11:54 AM UTC
This are among the best figures painted I ever seen...

Why the tank isn't panzer grey?!?

Good luck further!
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Posted: Friday, December 23, 2016 - 06:47 AM UTC
more figures getting painted




slowly placing them on the other tank.
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Posted: Sunday, December 25, 2016 - 02:14 PM UTC
your figure painting is really first class!
they just pop out of the scene!
ciao
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Posted: Monday, December 26, 2016 - 03:44 AM UTC
These figures are superb!!! Congrats!!
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Posted: Monday, December 26, 2016 - 06:14 AM UTC
thanks everyone, here are a few more





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Posted: Monday, December 26, 2016 - 09:24 AM UTC
The figure painting is wonderful, but................
Panzer crew wore black uniforms.
All your figures appear to date from the early war, 1940-1942, period, so the tank should be dark gray.

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Posted: Monday, December 26, 2016 - 02:04 PM UTC

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All your figures appear to date from the early war, 1940-1942, period, so the tank should be dark gray.

G



Not necessarily...

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Posted: Thursday, December 29, 2016 - 10:03 PM UTC

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The figure painting is wonderful, but................
Panzer crew wore black uniforms.
All your figures appear to date from the early war, 1940-1942, period, so the tank should be dark gray.

G



thanks for your kind words about the painting, as far as the uniforms are concerned and the colors of the tanks, wars are fought 7 days a week and supply problems and other variables often interfered with regulation and normal uniforms for soldiers, so i offer these two pictures to explain my color choices, also this is a summer scene and the lighter colors and undershirts would be worn.

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Posted: Thursday, December 29, 2016 - 10:05 PM UTC
needed an officer to tell the NCO's what to do, so here is one

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Posted: Thursday, December 29, 2016 - 11:20 PM UTC

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needed an officer to tell the NCO's what to do, so here is one



Glad to see a German officer who's actually not pointing...
Awesome stuff Doug, as always. No matter what you do, it turns to a masterpiece.

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Posted: Friday, December 30, 2016 - 12:36 AM UTC

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The figure painting is wonderful, but................
Panzer crew wore black uniforms.
All your figures appear to date from the early war, 1940-1942, period, so the tank should be dark gray.

G



thanks for your kind words about the painting, as far as the uniforms are concerned and the colors of the tanks, wars are fought 7 days a week and supply problems and other variables often interfered with regulation and normal uniforms for soldiers, so i offer these two pictures to explain my color choices, also this is a summer scene and the lighter colors and undershirts would be worn.




Just awesome work Doug-- I see you are from the Shep Paine school of painting. Seems not many of us use the dark to light painting method anymore-- so many prefer the translucent methods. Having served in the military for 30 years, over several conflicts, I agree wholeheartedly with your summation that there's an exception to every rule, and things get changed either for convenience or expediency during combat. It always frosts me when I hear so called "experts" say "it wasn't done this way or that way" based on some book they read somewhere with no real experience outside a museum or what they read. When it comes to uniforms or camouflage, there's always an exception, a delay in orders being implemented, commanders and soldiers making changes, or field expedients. Or sometimes materials just don't make it down to the soldier level. For years I wore an Arctic hood attached to my field jacket in cold weather, jungle boots in the summer in Europe when in the field. I carried a WWII USN UDT knife on my web gear too. Our camouflage patterns in the 11th Cav were not regulation or the even the right color based on a commanders whim. As a commander in ROK, I had a one-off commercial semi-van trailer converted into a field command center, etc., etc.. For some reason, modelers have come to believe armies are extremely regimented in these areas. It's simply not true in combat situations when orders and plans go out the window sometimes. The more I read about the WWII Wehrmacht, the more I find they were less "regimented" in certain areas than we modelers imagine. Just look at the combinations of vehicles, uniforms, camouflage patterns, and ad-hoc organizations they came up with given the strategic and tactical situations. Modeling is more of an art than an exact science-- there will never be an "exact" model or diorama, we can get close, but sometimes we should have a little latitude in artistic license. I can't wait till your dio is finished-- can you give us a "grass making" tutorial along the way?
VR, Russ
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Posted: Friday, December 30, 2016 - 03:37 AM UTC
Hey Russ
thanks for the back up brother, as far as the grass goes I use a combination of static grass for the shorter stuff and a hemp rope for the taller grass, I use white glue to attach it and it goes like this

first I ruff up the end of the rope and hold it with a tweezer then cut it off with a scissor like this


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Posted: Friday, December 30, 2016 - 03:40 AM UTC
then i stick the bottom of the grass in the white glue and stick it onto the base already covered with dirt and static grass, then you can fluff it up so it fills the area


i always airbrush the grass with some appropriate color even though it is already green so it blends in with the models and does not look out of place
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Posted: Friday, December 30, 2016 - 03:43 AM UTC
you can see that the color of the grass is blended into the figure along with the dirt color,



by the way this is a civil war figure and I do not intend to put him on the base with the germans, ha ha
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Posted: Friday, December 30, 2016 - 04:36 AM UTC

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you can see that the color of the grass is blended into the figure along with the dirt color,



by the way this is a civil war figure and I do not intend to put him on the base with the germans, ha ha



Doug--Brilliant tutorial! I too use a similar method-- by drilling holes and then using the string-- but I like your method much better for easier trouble free placement-- I just never thought of finding the green string--I've been using brown and dyeing it/painting it all these years! I'm glad you clarified the point about the civil war figure-- because I'm sure someone would have said that guy never got the uniform change-over order!
VR, Russ
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Posted: Friday, December 30, 2016 - 04:39 AM UTC
Your photos prove nothing.
Those are later war PzIV's, the Panzertruppen are clearly wearing black uniforms. The second photo shows, what appears to be US troops inspecting a PzII.
As far as the gray/brown scheme, the vehicle would be painted 2/3 gray, 1/3 dark brown not the mustard color used.
Just keep on doing what you want, your followers will stay true.
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Posted: Friday, December 30, 2016 - 05:01 AM UTC

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Your photos prove nothing.
Those are later war PzIV's, the Panzertruppen are clearly wearing black uniforms. The second photo shows, what appears to be US troops inspecting a PzII.
As far as the gray/brown scheme, the vehicle would be painted 2/3 gray, 1/3 dark brown not the mustard color used.
Just keep on doing what you want, your followers will stay true.
G



G--
The Panzer troops in the photo are definitely wearing a mixture of uniforms, likely in 1943 or 44, proving a point he made earlier, and the Pz II is definitely painted in a different scheme than the 2/3 gray and 1/3 dark brown you mention--I wonder what book that came from. The colors in the photo are probably anything they could find, including mud. But I suspect the Pz II photo is from N. Africa circa late 1942 or 1943 or from Sicily in 1943--times they were on the ropes and used what was at hand. Yes, I'm a follower of Doug's for the artistic element, and not a rivet counter, as too many rivets often make a dull boy intractable! Again, he's not trying to depict an exact time or place, but more of a generalized "Blitzkrieg" story at any time or place. Something Shep Paine was incredibly good at.
VR, Russ
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Posted: Friday, December 30, 2016 - 06:41 AM UTC

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Your photos prove nothing.
Those are later war PzIV's, the Panzertruppen are clearly wearing black uniforms. The second photo shows, what appears to be US troops inspecting a PzII.
As far as the gray/brown scheme, the vehicle would be painted 2/3 gray, 1/3 dark brown not the mustard color used.
Just keep on doing what you want, your followers will stay true.
G



G--
The Panzer troops in the photo are definitely wearing a mixture of uniforms, likely in 1943 or 44, proving a point he made earlier, and the Pz II is definitely painted in a different scheme than the 2/3 gray and 1/3 dark brown you mention--I wonder what book that came from. The colors in the photo are probably anything they could find, including mud. But I suspect the Pz II photo is from N. Africa circa late 1942 or 1943 or from Sicily in 1943--times they were on the ropes and used what was at hand. Yes, I'm a follower of Doug's for the artistic element, and not a rivet counter, as too many rivets often make a dull boy intractable! Again, he's not trying to depict an exact time or place, but more of a generalized "Blitzkrieg" story at any time or place. Something Shep Paine was incredibly good at.
VR, Russ



Not that I believe in any way that Doug needs someone to come to his defence, or even that there would be a need for a defence, but....

Wayne, I too, even with my limited military experience, can clearly see in Doug's first photo that all of the troops are panzer crewmen. They're all wearing the black coloured caps, of various styles, that denote their affiliation with the panzer corps.

I personally am not a "rivet counter", and while I try to make things "look" as real as I can, I don't ever force it upon my fellow modelling brethren.

To each his own, if you don't like it, don't look... sorry if I sound uncanadian, I'm currently unemployed, and at the end of a bad flu...

Keep it coming Doug! I love your work.

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next guy on the tanks