login   |    register
Armor/AFV: IDF [Israeli Defense Forces]
Armor and AFVs of the IDF army from 1947-today.
Hosted by Darren Baker
Interesting/Odd IDF Heavy Metal
ReluctantRenegade
Visit this Community
Wien, Austria
Joined: March 09, 2016
KitMaker: 2,059 posts
Armorama: 2,016 posts
Posted: Sunday, October 23, 2016 - 04:14 PM UTC
Three different kind of Merkavas on the same photo: IIB's and D's (from my former company) of the 7th and Merkava IV's of (probably) the 401st Armored Brigades during operation "Protective Edge" in 2014. In July 2016 (as the last regular armored brigade) the 7th has completed its transition to the latest version of Merkava (4M).



ReluctantRenegade
Visit this Community
Wien, Austria
Joined: March 09, 2016
KitMaker: 2,059 posts
Armorama: 2,016 posts
Posted: Sunday, October 23, 2016 - 04:33 PM UTC
A command version of the M113 in its original green color.

ReluctantRenegade
Visit this Community
Wien, Austria
Joined: March 09, 2016
KitMaker: 2,059 posts
Armorama: 2,016 posts
Posted: Sunday, October 23, 2016 - 05:37 PM UTC
exgrunt
Visit this Community
Massachusetts, United States
Joined: December 17, 2013
KitMaker: 267 posts
Armorama: 267 posts
Posted: Monday, October 24, 2016 - 04:36 AM UTC
What an awesome thread. For what is a (relatively) small force, the sheer number of different vehicles in IDF service is pretty amazing.

Do they still have any of the upgraded M60-based tanks in service or have they all been retired?
ReluctantRenegade
Visit this Community
Wien, Austria
Joined: March 09, 2016
KitMaker: 2,059 posts
Armorama: 2,016 posts
Posted: Monday, October 24, 2016 - 05:08 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Do they still have any of the upgraded M60-based tanks in service or have they all been retired?



The regular army phased them out in 2004 already, but they remained in reserve till 2014. "Magach" based bridge layers and M88's continue to serve, as well as the "Magach 5" based "Pereh".
exgrunt
Visit this Community
Massachusetts, United States
Joined: December 17, 2013
KitMaker: 267 posts
Armorama: 267 posts
Posted: Monday, October 24, 2016 - 05:17 AM UTC

Quoted Text


Quoted Text

Do they still have any of the upgraded M60-based tanks in service or have they all been retired?



The regular army phased them out in 2004 already, but they remained in reserve till 2014. "Magach" based bridge layers and M88's continue to serve.



If you have any pics of the latest configuration reserve M60's please feel free to share! How are reserves utilized in the IDF? Are they assigned to larger reserve formations or when activated, are they use to supplement active duty units?
knewton
Visit this Community
New Zealand
Joined: June 19, 2013
KitMaker: 945 posts
Armorama: 857 posts
Posted: Monday, October 24, 2016 - 09:48 AM UTC
IDF MLRS MAR 290, and would you believe it, there is an interior shot of the turret... we are helped by the fact there is a surviving example available to examine.









enjoy

knewton
Visit this Community
New Zealand
Joined: June 19, 2013
KitMaker: 945 posts
Armorama: 857 posts
Posted: Monday, October 24, 2016 - 12:18 PM UTC
walk around of above MLRS...
http://www.primeportal.net/tanks/anon_idf/eshel_hayarden/index.php?Page=1



and thank you, Mr Michael MASS...



nor sure what this one is



you know you want to
ReluctantRenegade
Visit this Community
Wien, Austria
Joined: March 09, 2016
KitMaker: 2,059 posts
Armorama: 2,016 posts
Posted: Monday, October 24, 2016 - 01:34 PM UTC

Quoted Text

If you have any pics of the latest configuration reserve M60's please feel free to share!



I'm not quite sure I understand what you mean, but the last two "Magach" variants leaving service were the 7C of the 500th brigade (when it went defunct in 2003) and the 6B of the 401st (transitioned to Merkava IV in 2004).

http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/coldwar/Israel/Magach-7.php


Quoted Text

How are reserves utilized in the IDF? Are they assigned to larger reserve formations or when activated, are they use to supplement active duty units?



Actually both, but since the reserve army is much bigger than the active duty one, the former is the standard.
Removed by original poster on 10/25/16 - 08:36:24 (GMT).
Removed by original poster on 10/25/16 - 19:26:02 (GMT).
ReluctantRenegade
Visit this Community
Wien, Austria
Joined: March 09, 2016
KitMaker: 2,059 posts
Armorama: 2,016 posts
Posted: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 - 02:42 AM UTC
[quote
[/quote]

What is THAT thing?! I've never seen it before...
knewton
Visit this Community
New Zealand
Joined: June 19, 2013
KitMaker: 945 posts
Armorama: 857 posts
Posted: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 - 07:53 AM UTC
"THAT thing" is, my friend, a "Rascal", by Rafael; a "155mm Light Self-Propelled Howitzer"...

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/rascal/rascal1.html

k.
ReluctantRenegade
Visit this Community
Wien, Austria
Joined: March 09, 2016
KitMaker: 2,059 posts
Armorama: 2,016 posts
Posted: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 - 12:14 PM UTC

Quoted Text

"THAT thing" is, my friend, a "Rascal", by Rafael; a "155mm Light Self-Propelled Howitzer"...

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/rascal/rascal1.html

k.



Well, thanks Kylie. Never seen/heard about it before...

The IDF's first attempt to provide much better protection for the infantry resulted in the "Nagmashot": a "Nagmash" (APC) based on the "Shot".


















ReluctantRenegade
Visit this Community
Wien, Austria
Joined: March 09, 2016
KitMaker: 2,059 posts
Armorama: 2,016 posts
Posted: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 - 12:39 PM UTC
A "Nagmachon" is basically an improved "Nagmashot", which can be recognized by its raised superstructure. These are early variants.













ReluctantRenegade
Visit this Community
Wien, Austria
Joined: March 09, 2016
KitMaker: 2,059 posts
Armorama: 2,016 posts
Posted: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 - 01:02 PM UTC
Mid-production "Nagamachons".







I wonder how the teeth of that drive sprocket got shaven off...





rfbaer
Visit this Community
Texas, United States
Joined: June 12, 2007
KitMaker: 1,722 posts
Armorama: 1,569 posts
Posted: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 - 07:31 PM UTC
Looks more like a sheared final drive output shaft, had to have made a big noise......
ReluctantRenegade
Visit this Community
Wien, Austria
Joined: March 09, 2016
KitMaker: 2,059 posts
Armorama: 2,016 posts
Posted: Thursday, October 27, 2016 - 04:52 PM UTC
One of mine all-time favorites, the late-production "Nagmachon", AKA the "Doghouse" variant.







ReluctantRenegade
Visit this Community
Wien, Austria
Joined: March 09, 2016
KitMaker: 2,059 posts
Armorama: 2,016 posts
Posted: Thursday, October 27, 2016 - 05:00 PM UTC
The lack of reactive armor blocks and tactical markings (and the presence of female instructor(s) for that matter...) indicate that this vehicle is used for training.





ReluctantRenegade
Visit this Community
Wien, Austria
Joined: March 09, 2016
KitMaker: 2,059 posts
Armorama: 2,016 posts
Posted: Thursday, October 27, 2016 - 05:07 PM UTC
This one looks like a freshly converted (or overhauled) vehicle.



ReluctantRenegade
Visit this Community
Wien, Austria
Joined: March 09, 2016
KitMaker: 2,059 posts
Armorama: 2,016 posts
Posted: Thursday, October 27, 2016 - 05:16 PM UTC
The lack of slat armor allows us to see the "Doghouse".



This one seems to be equipped with an additional armor plate on the rooftop.





LonCray
Visit this Community
Virginia, United States
Joined: August 24, 2005
KitMaker: 271 posts
Armorama: 194 posts
Posted: Thursday, October 27, 2016 - 06:16 PM UTC
I wonder if that 'extra armor plate' on the second picture isn't just a gunner's shield folded down; similar to the one on the third picture?
ReluctantRenegade
Visit this Community
Wien, Austria
Joined: March 09, 2016
KitMaker: 2,059 posts
Armorama: 2,016 posts
Posted: Thursday, October 27, 2016 - 06:25 PM UTC

Quoted Text

I wonder if that 'extra armor plate' on the second picture isn't just a gunner's shield folded down; similar to the one on the third picture?



After having another look, it actually looks like a FOLDED UP armor plate...I don't think it's a gunner's shield, it's way too big for that, plus a roof mounted MG/HMG wouldn't make any since there are already 4 of them sticking out of the doghouse...
ReluctantRenegade
Visit this Community
Wien, Austria
Joined: March 09, 2016
KitMaker: 2,059 posts
Armorama: 2,016 posts
Posted: Thursday, October 27, 2016 - 06:56 PM UTC
OK, now I'm sure it's a folded up armor plate. Mystery solved...

ReluctantRenegade
Visit this Community
Wien, Austria
Joined: March 09, 2016
KitMaker: 2,059 posts
Armorama: 2,016 posts
Posted: Thursday, October 27, 2016 - 08:59 PM UTC
Alternative use of IDF equipment No.1.



Alternative use of IDF equipment No.2.