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Armor/AFV: IDF [Israeli Defense Forces]
Armor and AFVs of the IDF army from 1947-today.
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Posted: Monday, October 17, 2016 - 09:30 PM UTC
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Posted: Monday, October 17, 2016 - 09:47 PM UTC
Captured Syrian Pz.IV on the Golan Heights during the Six Days War.



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Posted: Monday, October 17, 2016 - 09:48 PM UTC

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Kylie, this one's for you...




ReluctantRenegade, you're a beautiful man.

May I ask, where did you find that treasure, please?

Kylie
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Posted: Monday, October 17, 2016 - 10:01 PM UTC
And, I've a Merk 2D, D9 (resin), and a Nakpadon in the stash too! Time to do some modelling.

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Posted: Monday, October 17, 2016 - 10:05 PM UTC

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May I ask, where did you find that treasure, please?



Yesterday I came across this site. It has massive amount of pictures and tons of useful information. An absolutely MUST SEE for hardcore IDF AFV's fans. It even has a nice collection of IDF armor battalion/brigade/division insignias on the right hand side (did I mention the 7th Brigade is the best...?).
I warn you, you'll spend hours in front of the computer browsing through the photos and reading interesting stuff (you better let your wife know...).

There you go: http://idf-armor.blogspot.co.at/
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Posted: Monday, October 17, 2016 - 10:09 PM UTC

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And, I've a Merk 2D



I'm planing to build a Merkava IIB or D resembling the tank(s) I've served on in the '9o's. Which one would you recommend?

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Posted: Monday, October 17, 2016 - 10:18 PM UTC
This beauty (built by an excellent Turkish modeler called Özgür Güner) resembles the platoon commanders tank of my ex-unit, the "V-Vulcan" platoon, 77th battalion, 7th Armored Brigade of the IDF.

http://planetarmor.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6518&page=5
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Posted: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 - 01:16 AM UTC

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May I ask, where did you find that treasure, please?

Thanks for the link, what awesome pictures there.

Yesterday I came across this site. It has massive amount of pictures and tons of useful information. An absolutely MUST SEE for hardcore IDF AFV's fans. It even has a nice collection of IDF armor battalion/brigade/division insignias on the right hand side (did I mention the 7th Brigade is the best...?).
I warn you, you'll spend hours in front of the computer browsing through the photos and reading interesting stuff (you better let your wife know...).

There you go: http://idf-armor.blogspot.co.at/

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Posted: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 - 03:09 AM UTC
i sure am enjoying every bit of this forum.this has to be one of best ones in quite a while with all these great photos.
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Posted: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 - 07:57 AM UTC
maybe not "heavy metal", but an interesting / odd vehicle of the IDF, your own remote control car complete with 7.62mm MG...



Does anyone here know what make and / or model mine plow (plough) that is on the Doobi, please? TIA

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Posted: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 - 05:47 PM UTC

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Does anyone here know what make and / or model mine plow (plough) that is on the Doobi, please? TIA

Kylie



I'm not sure, probably locally made. I have a few close-ups though...



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Posted: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 - 09:47 PM UTC
pure sweetness; thank you, again, ReluctantRenegade...

I need to pull out some photos and contribute to this thread.

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Posted: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 - 11:14 PM UTC
Looks like one of them did dig up an IED, didn't...?
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Posted: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 - 04:36 PM UTC
An impressive concentration of "Namer"s.









The green/yellow flag indicates that this vehicle is manned by IDF's 1st infantry, the "Golani" Brigade.



A "Namer" HATAP.


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Posted: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 - 05:24 PM UTC
Amazing photos
Do you mind if I repost them on other sites?

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Posted: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 - 05:29 PM UTC
Of course not, go ahead!
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Posted: Thursday, October 20, 2016 - 04:30 AM UTC
What awesome photos. Suggest that this thread be pinned as a handy reference (and hopefully kept alive).

Question - I know very little about Israeli vehicles. Is the Namer the standard "heavy" APC in service? What is the Namer HATAP?

Why the difference in armament? Looks like not all have the remote operated weapons station.

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Posted: Thursday, October 20, 2016 - 04:49 AM UTC
Prototype engineer vehicle based on Namer hull, for those that purchased the Hobbyboss kit...



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finally,



all taken from public sources, now of which are mine. Credit to the photographer, nicely done.

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Posted: Thursday, October 20, 2016 - 01:00 PM UTC

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Question - I know very little about Israeli vehicles. Is the Namer the standard "heavy" APC in service?



Not yet, but it will be. Eventually it will replace all the other ones (Nagmachon/Nakpadon/Achzarit), even though some of them probably will survive as platforms for special vehicles.



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What is the Namer HATAP?



You can find my explanation on page No.3. Basically it's not a vehicle, but rather the name of a whole crew with their appropriate AFV (M113, Achzarit, Puma, Namer) optimalized for repair.


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Why the difference in armament? Looks like not all have the remote operated weapons station.



According to the IDF's doctrine, different purpose call for different equipment. That's the reason by the way for the existence of so many different special units.





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Posted: Thursday, October 20, 2016 - 01:16 PM UTC
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This isn't a "Namer" HATAP, but rather a Merkava II based ARV operated (probably) on divisional level by rear echelon ordnance troops (as opposed to HATAP AFV's, which are also operated by ordnance troops but on company level, side by side with infantry/artillery/armor/combat engineering troops)
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Posted: Thursday, October 20, 2016 - 05:50 PM UTC
With hundreds of (now phased out) Merkava II's laying around, it was natural to use them as platforms for HAPC's. The Merkava's are simply crying to be converted to this role: since they're equipped with front mounted engine and rear-hatch, all was needed is removing the turret, the gun and the ammunition, add a simple superstructure and voila, you've got the "Ofek": a Merkava II based HAPC which is supposed to replace the obsolete M113's used by command / medical / logistic /technical support units. The "Ofek" is a fine example of re-using old equipment in a completely new role at the lowest possible cost.







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Posted: Thursday, October 20, 2016 - 06:59 PM UTC
"Namer" stands for "NAgmash MERkava" (Merkava APC), but also means "Leopard". Well, this one's gotta be the "Snow Leopard" variant...



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Posted: Thursday, October 20, 2016 - 07:10 PM UTC
An experimental "Namer" with 30mm gun.