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Posted: Saturday, June 18, 2016 - 01:40 AM UTC
Hi all a tiny update really just to show I'm still on this (I know it's not great but I figure I can remove all the gold and redo it, if and when my mojo returns.

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Posted: Sunday, June 19, 2016 - 10:24 AM UTC
Hi Ken,

well, what can bee seen from your pictures looks really fine!! I know very well the feeling when a build stalls, or when things don't go as smooth or as nice as you want them to (or even, as they used to do before...), but that should go by! Your gold work still looks really nice and the overall impression on your pictures is great!!

Cheers,
Jan
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Posted: Monday, June 20, 2016 - 04:17 PM UTC
I second what Jan says Ken: I know how it is when the mojo goes, but keep chipping away at it and you'll find it again.

Great work on the gold leafing!
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Posted: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 - 12:11 AM UTC
Hi Ken,

Echo what Jan and Russ have said, have been keeping an eye on progress, and enjoying your progress.

Keep up the great work

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Monday, July 18, 2016 - 09:28 PM UTC
Hi all well since I've finished the 32 ford I'm tentatively back on this, the first thing I noticed(which when I put it away I didn't was the jib was quite a bit off centre, no amount of gentle twisting would straighten it so I bit my lip and cut it off.









The guilding on the top rails was rubbish so that's been given another go, still not happy with it but will live with it for now also added a bit more deck furniture.









Removed some of the wash from the transom sort of better we will just have to see how I feel after I've lived with it for a while, I may still strip it, I'm feeling better about it anyway.
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Posted: Saturday, July 23, 2016 - 12:50 AM UTC
Hi all here is another little update, that mast is not glued in yet just positioned to see the effect, I've seen where people do the ratlines on the upper masts before atattching the mast, to me it looks easier than having to try it whilst attached to the ship.

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Posted: Friday, July 29, 2016 - 01:57 AM UTC
Hi all well this is certainly leagues more complex and detailed than any ship I've built not sure I'm upto rigging this, for instance all the pulleys attached it the mast and crows nest, I've barely started on this one mast, I take my hat off to anyone tackling this complex a rigging not sure I will stick the course, I've not found an easy way to tie the pulleys. The 4von this mast took 2 hours and a lot of swearing.








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Posted: Sunday, July 31, 2016 - 10:11 AM UTC
Good to see some progress here, Ken - I wish you luck and patience with the rigging!! I know it would not be my thing to do...

The start looks good, but that's clearly a lot of work coming up...

Cheers,
Jan
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Posted: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 - 12:47 AM UTC
Hi all, the rest of the cannons are fully visible so I've decided to try and detail them a bit more, there is no wood grain moulded in the plastic sides so I've scratched some lightly with my knife and tried painting and using pastels to get an wood effect, not worked as well as I'd liked but better than nothing, and when they are installed you probably won't even notice anyway.


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Posted: Friday, August 12, 2016 - 01:21 AM UTC
Hi all these cannons are a bit tedious but I've done a bit more, not happy with them, they still don't look very realistic (each one is less than 1/2 an inch long, well the carriage is anyway), so I can't do much with them but I'm wondering weather the decking from the 1/72 revell flower class corvette would look good stuck on and stained what do you think.


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Posted: Monday, September 05, 2016 - 02:19 AM UTC
now that's some patience to build all those canon, Ken!

Looking good.
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Posted: Monday, September 05, 2016 - 09:14 AM UTC
Quite some mass production going on here!!

I think they look quite all right, where on the ship will they go, plain sight or one or two decks below? And if on the open deck, how much rigging etc. will be over them? I don't think I would try to cover them with some not needed wooden deck - danger that the edges/bends make look it artificial seems pretty imminent to me.

Cheers,
Jan
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Posted: Saturday, October 15, 2016 - 12:50 AM UTC
Hi all well i know I've not touched this for a while, Pam just snapped the fore mast, apparently she was just getting the dog a treat (the bag with the treats in was on the table with the kit) my fault entirely, she is so upset I'm more cross she even tried to, that's what I'm here for to get stuff, trouble is she thinks because she can make it to the loo and make a cuppa she can do anything, I love her to bits and can't wait for her to get better. Anyway when I do get back on this that will be the first thing for me to takle.
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Posted: Sunday, October 16, 2016 - 04:24 PM UTC
Hi Ken

best regards to Pam for a speedy recovery!

Models can be replaced, but our loved ones cannot!
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Posted: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 - 01:15 AM UTC
Right after some good advice I may well get started back on this, I've just bought these 3 books

So hopefully after a good read the rigging won't be sooooo scarey.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 - 01:36 AM UTC
be good to see you re-start this one Ken
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Posted: Saturday, August 05, 2017 - 08:32 PM UTC
Hi all well I'm back on this but with a change of attack, it's now going to be a water line model, I didn't like the ships boats on the deck (take up too much space and I don't believe the ship would have operated like that) so it will be towed along side something like this.


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Posted: Saturday, August 05, 2017 - 09:33 PM UTC
Just saw this, lovely build!

Nice idea with the waterline solution.

Will be watching your build progress.
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Posted: Monday, August 07, 2017 - 09:29 AM UTC
Hi Ken,

good to see you're back working on this one as well!!


Cheers,
Jan
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Posted: Monday, August 07, 2017 - 11:51 PM UTC
Hi all which of these positions do you think looks best, straight ahead or at a jaunty angle.

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Posted: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 03:41 AM UTC
Just a 5 degree swing either side of center will do.
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Posted: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 09:53 AM UTC
Hi Ken,

for me it's certainly a jaunty angle, straight tends a) to be boring and, more important, b) it is really hard to get it really straight - and half a degree off tends to look irritating...

Cheers,
Jan
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Posted: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 - 12:24 AM UTC
Hi all well I've detailed up one of the ships boats (I suppose that means I will have to do the other one now)here's the before

Put the bathroom sealant on and started painting the tops of the waves


Loads more wave painting to do.
I've removed a couple of the guns to load the supplies into I understand they used some sort of pulley system from the spars to load the supplies with and I want to depict that has anyone got any detailed drawings of how this was achieved.





I've only used one of the port and starboard anchors, I'm hoping the other two are spares, I can't imagine they used all 4 anchors or am I wrong.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 - 02:28 AM UTC
this will be a nice looking diorama Ken.

Unfortunately I can't help with your questions, but I'm sure someone hereabouts can
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Posted: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 - 11:21 PM UTC
Hi all well I've finally finished painting the waved (That's a lot of water) not sure if it needs more colour, I'm trying for the dark brackish water of a harbour.