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Posted: Friday, March 27, 2020 - 12:06 AM UTC

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Just amazing work Timmy!

Good to hear your over the shingles. What an insidious thing that is. Saw what it did to my dad. Not good.

Meanwhile your Victory keeps getting better n better!



Russell,

Fortunately, I didn't have the shingles, I just got the vaccination. Actually, I think I got injected with some "this is going to kick your ass!" My wife had shingles, and it was ugly for her.

Right now, with Victory, it's pretty much lather, rinse, repeat - inasmuch it's install the sail, add lifts, clues, and sheet lines, move to the next sail. I'm really looking forward to attaching the fore & main yards, and installing the lifts for those yards - it's not overly involved, just massive looking!

Thanks for taking a look, and I hope all is well with you down south!



Hi Timothy! Sorry to hear your wife had it so bad. Hope she's back to good health now!

Sometimes the vaccinations can almost feel as bad as the disease. Still, they're preferable to the real thing.

Meanwhile, your persistence with Victory is reaping the rewards on what is surely going to be a stunning display when finished!
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Posted: Friday, March 27, 2020 - 10:37 AM UTC

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Just amazing work Timmy!

Good to hear your over the shingles. What an insidious thing that is. Saw what it did to my dad. Not good.

Meanwhile your Victory keeps getting better n better!



Russell,

Fortunately, I didn't have the shingles, I just got the vaccination. Actually, I think I got injected with some "this is going to kick your ass!" My wife had shingles, and it was ugly for her.

Right now, with Victory, it's pretty much lather, rinse, repeat - inasmuch it's install the sail, add lifts, clues, and sheet lines, move to the next sail. I'm really looking forward to attaching the fore & main yards, and installing the lifts for those yards - it's not overly involved, just massive looking!

Thanks for taking a look, and I hope all is well with you down south!



Hi Timothy! Sorry to hear your wife had it so bad. Hope she's back to good health now!

Sometimes the vaccinations can almost feel as bad as the disease. Still, they're preferable to the real thing.

Meanwhile, your persistence with Victory is reaping the rewards on what is surely going to be a stunning display when finished!



Hi Russell,

She recovered from the shingles - it happened a couple of years ago. On a down note, today (the 27th) marks the 7th year of her passing. Oddly enough, one of my workmates came down with shingles this past week! I talked to him yesterday, and he's doing better.

Thanks for following my blog on Victory - I hope you're enjoying my posts. Currently, I ironed the main topgallant sail, and got most of the puckers out, and today, I put the first of the threads that bend the sail to the yardarm into the sail (only 13 more to go!) Hopefully I can get the sail fully attached this weekend.

Cheers,

Tim
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Posted: Sunday, March 29, 2020 - 05:02 AM UTC
Tim,

sorry to hear about your illness and good that you are doing better!!

Keep up the good work, your work continues to amaze me. She will be a great ship!

Cheers
Jan
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Posted: Sunday, March 29, 2020 - 08:45 PM UTC

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Tim,

sorry to hear about your illness and good that you are doing better!!

Keep up the good work, your work continues to amaze me. She will be a great ship!

Cheers
Jan



Thanks, Jan. Of course, the on-going worry now is Covid-19.

I got about halfway through attaching the main topgallant sail to the yardarm...and somewhere along there, in a case of absent-mindedness, I managed to lose the sewing needle I was using to push the threads through. I found another needle I can use, but it's longer than the previous one, so it's a bit more difficult to use than the previous needle. I hope, when I get home this morning, I'll find the time to finish attaching the sail.

Tim
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Posted: Wednesday, April 08, 2020 - 09:27 AM UTC
Hi Tim

How is this beautiful build going? Attaching the fore & main yards, and installing the lifts for those yards would be major milestones. I hope they're not too difficult!
I am of course sorry to hear of your wife's passing, albeit, 7 years ago.
Following your blog on Victory has been a viewing pleasure. Although I don't receive email notifications of new posts (I think it's the apostrophe in the title that stops them going out) I always try to scroll through the latest posts to see if there's been an update
I guess what I found amusing was that you've ironed the sails! I never would have dreamed that I would ever get the iron out of storage to use in modelling! Nonetheless, once the sails go in she'll be looking ever more majestic!
As always, thanks for sharing!
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Posted: Wednesday, April 08, 2020 - 08:56 PM UTC
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Hi Tim

How is this beautiful build going?



Slow, but sure!!


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Attaching the fore & main yards, and installing the lifts for those yards would be major milestones. I hope they're not too difficult!

With some proper planning, I don't think it will turn into a disaster!



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I am of course sorry to hear of your wife's passing, albeit, 7 years ago.

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Following your blog on Victory has been a viewing pleasure. Although I don't receive email notifications of new posts (I think it's the apostrophe in the title that stops them going out) I always try to scroll through the latest posts to see if there's been an update



Thanks for following along. Not sure why you don't get any e-mail notices, maybe it's something you should mention to the administrators.


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I guess what I found amusing was that you've ironed the sails! I never would have dreamed that I would ever get the iron out of storage to use in modelling! Nonetheless, once the sails go in she'll be looking ever more majestic!
As always, thanks for sharing!



Well, you know, it takes all kinds of tools to work on our hobbies! If I didn't iron the sails, what with the coffee solution to color the sails, and the glue & water solution to try to give them some shape, a lot of puckering happens to the sails. If I didn't iron some of those puckers out, the sails would look terrible.

So in the latest update, I managed to find the original sewing needle I was using to attach the sails to the yardarm. My problem nowadays is, when I'm trying to tie off a rigging line for the main mast, I keep leaning my hand on the hammock netting, and I'm trashing the netting & its uprights. I have to remember to put a thick book on the worktable, to rest my elbow on, before I try to tie off any more of that rigging.

Thanks again for taking a peek - it's much appreciated!
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Posted: Friday, April 10, 2020 - 04:06 AM UTC

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My problem nowadays is, when I'm trying to tie off a rigging line for the main mast, I keep leaning my hand on the hammock netting, and I'm trashing the netting & its uprights. I have to remember to put a thick book on the worktable, to rest my elbow on, before I try to tie off any more of that rigging.



I too have had that experience in a minor way building the old Revell plastic Constitution... I can only imagine the complexity and difficulties with your much larger HMS Victory. Keep up the good work, and keep those images coming!
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Posted: Sunday, April 12, 2020 - 08:58 PM UTC

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My problem nowadays is, when I'm trying to tie off a rigging line for the main mast, I keep leaning my hand on the hammock netting, and I'm trashing the netting & its uprights. I have to remember to put a thick book on the worktable, to rest my elbow on, before I try to tie off any more of that rigging.



I too have had that experience in a minor way building the old Revell plastic Constitution... I can only imagine the complexity and difficulties with your much larger HMS Victory. Keep up the good work, and keep those images coming!



Yeah,it's a real pisser having to go back and fix things, especiallly when it's the same thing you're fixing. Like I said, I think my solution is to put a thick book on the worktable, so I can support my elbow, which allows me to work over and above the hammock netting.


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Keep up the good work, and keep those images coming!

So, people are only reading this for the pictures, and not the story?
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Posted: Monday, April 13, 2020 - 09:54 AM UTC

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My problem nowadays is, when I'm trying to tie off a rigging line for the main mast, I keep leaning my hand on the hammock netting, and I'm trashing the netting & its uprights. I have to remember to put a thick book on the worktable, to rest my elbow on, before I try to tie off any more of that rigging.



I too have had that experience in a minor way building the old Revell plastic Constitution... I can only imagine the complexity and difficulties with your much larger HMS Victory. Keep up the good work, and keep those images coming!



Yup, agreed, our hands are the arbiters of destruction on our own builds! Rule #1 for me: always provide hand support when working above deck! Be it a box, or book or even a block of wood!
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Posted: Tuesday, May 05, 2020 - 12:34 PM UTC
Moving forward: I cemented the main top yard in place the other day, and have started installing the reef lines on the top sail. Holy cow - if I counted right, there's 84 reef lines on this sail! I got about 60 of them installed this evening - maybe the rest get installed in a day or two.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 27, 2020 - 07:07 AM UTC
I have just purchased this kit and I am waiting for parts from HISmodel before I start. I have poured all over the supplied instructions and have scoured the internet for build logs. Your build log and model are a great inspiration for me and if you donít mind I will be referring to your build log on a regular basis
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Posted: Thursday, May 28, 2020 - 01:37 PM UTC

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I have just purchased this kit and I am waiting for parts from HISmodel before I start. I have poured all over the supplied instructions and have scoured the internet for build logs. Your build log and model are a great inspiration for me and if you donít mind I will be referring to your build log on a regular basis



Hi Lee!

Your kinds words are downright flattering! Feel free to refer to my blog for help, and of course, if you have a question, just ask away, either here in the public forum or via a private e-mail.

A couple of questions for you: How much did your kit cost?

When it comes to painting the kit, will you be primarily using an airbrush, or brushes, or a combination?

What all parts are you waiting for from HisModel? I bought my sails from him, and while I'm very happy with the product, some of his sails are over-size, because he uses the vacuum-formed sails as his template, and some of those (actually, several) are oversized.

So thanks for the post, and I look forward to seeing your progress!

Tim
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Posted: Friday, May 29, 2020 - 07:02 AM UTC
Hi Tim

The Kit cost £150

I am waiting for wooden deck veneers, standing rigging and the running rigging.

I may get the sails after Christmas, will wait and see.

I will be hand painting, I have purchased the paints they use in the part kit from the magazine dasgitino did, better yellow and red, I last went round Victory about 10 years ago, the humbrol yellow they recommend seems too bright.
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Posted: Friday, May 29, 2020 - 07:52 AM UTC

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Hi Tim

The Kit cost £150

I am waiting for wooden deck veneers, standing rigging and the running rigging.

I may get the sails after Christmas, will wait and see.

I will be hand painting, I have purchased the paints they use in the part kit from the magazine dasgitino did, better yellow and red, I last went round Victory about 10 years ago, the humbrol yellow they recommend seems too bright.



Hi Lee,

Well, it looks like the price of the kit hasn't changed much over the years -if I did the math right, your price is only a little bit higher than the 160 USD I paid...over a decade ago!

I used Testor's "Insignia Yellow" on my Victory, and I think it's too bright. Perhaps a better color would something like yellow ochre.

Cheers,

Tim
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Posted: Friday, May 29, 2020 - 07:59 AM UTC
Iím going with the yellow ochre and red ochre as thatís not too bright. I ve also order the Amati cordage especially after seeing how much it takes to make the hammock netting and the shrouds. Will be starting in a few weeks but after following your build the first few months will be taken up by painting.

Did you reinforce the masts at all when you built them?
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Posted: Monday, June 01, 2020 - 12:32 AM UTC
I didn't put any reinforcement on the mizzen mast, but the main & fore masts I put a wooden dowel on the inside. And that reinforcement only went in on the lower part of the masts, as they are two-part masts. The upper components of the masts are single-piece parts.
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Posted: Monday, June 01, 2020 - 05:31 AM UTC
Thanks Tim, I have some doweling I can use. Iíve been going through the instructions, not the best in some places, I have a copy of the Imai plans for this kit, they are not in English but at least the cordage dimensions are in mm and are double the length of the other plans, will use both to build.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 02, 2020 - 11:03 AM UTC

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Thanks Tim, I have some doweling I can use. Iíve been going through the instructions, not the best in some places, I have a copy of the Imai plans for this kit, they are not in English but at least the cordage dimensions are in mm and are double the length of the other plans, will use both to build.



I have a spreadsheet that has scale dimensions for the diameter of the various rigging lines - it's pretty handy, but the trick is "translating" the names of the lines in the spreadsheet, to the actual line on the ship. Some are easy to figure out, some are not. Let me know if you'd like a copy of the spreadsheet.

And while you're waiting for the stuff from HiSmodel to arrive, I'd say go ahead and get started on the painting. There's a lot to paint! I think I've already gone through 3 or 4 jars of the insignia yellow, and at least 2 big jars of (Tamiya acrylic) flat black.

Cheers,

Tim
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Posted: Tuesday, June 02, 2020 - 11:31 PM UTC
Hi Tim, that spreadsheet would be great.