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Posted: Sunday, March 23, 2014 - 01:24 AM GMT


News in from Takom has a Leopard tank coming our way that will allow your choice of Leopard.

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Posted: Sunday, March 23, 2014 - 04:25 AM GMT
Welded turret or?
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Posted: Sunday, March 23, 2014 - 05:18 AM GMT
Cast .... only A3/A4s had welded ones
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Posted: Sunday, March 23, 2014 - 09:49 AM GMT
nice sniper add on to put out side a building
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Posted: Monday, March 24, 2014 - 02:33 AM GMT
Wonder if we will see a C1 Mexas?
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Posted: Monday, March 24, 2014 - 06:00 AM GMT
Well... for a C1 MEXAS, they would only have to do the MEXAS turret armor if I am correct (but I'm not an expert)!
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Posted: Monday, March 24, 2014 - 06:00 AM GMT

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Wonder if we will see a C1 Mexas?


I wish for it!
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Posted: Monday, March 24, 2014 - 06:49 AM GMT

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Well... for a C1 MEXAS, they would only have to do the MEXAS turret armor if I am correct (but I'm not an expert)!



The C1 MEXAS requires an entirely new turret...the welded 1A3/1A4 turret with Canadian modifications plus a unique open turret bustle rack in addition to the C1 turret MEXAS. The hull MEXAS is the same as on the C2.

One kit at a time gents...the Leopard C2 was only just announced.

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Posted: Monday, March 24, 2014 - 07:27 AM GMT

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One kit at a time gents...the Leopard C2 was only just announced.




Did Takom address the shortcomings of the C2 MEXAS kit, like solid inner road wheels and solid moulded details on the hull sides?

Thomas
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Posted: Monday, March 24, 2014 - 08:34 AM GMT

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One kit at a time gents...the Leopard C2 was only just announced.




Did Takom address the shortcomings of the C2 MEXAS kit, like solid inner road wheels and solid moulded details on the hull sides?

Thomas



I have no idea. I would suspect they will be the same as it is a common hull, but we'll have to wait and see.
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Posted: Monday, March 24, 2014 - 10:20 AM GMT
You know it is great having Canada take such a front row for model companies. However with all of these vehicles we are missing the vehicle crews and Infantry and other troops that accompanied these items. A M777 would be nice to see also with a Cdn gun crew. Before current events shift the interests elsewhere. It is unfortunate that it took a War for Canada's military to become an interest to the model companies when you consider the number of UN operations we took part in. There is alot of subjects for them to look at. We may not be large but we have certainly left our mark on the world stage! The other thing it would be nice if they got it right before they go into production considering the costs associated with the kits and after market items to correct things that research should not have missed in the first place. The troop figures should be in poses other than standing around smoking and drinking coffee also.
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Posted: Monday, March 24, 2014 - 11:13 AM GMT
One thing for sure: Takom entered dynamically promising in the market and i hope to see more modern Canadian variants: C1 Mexas or LEO 2A4M
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Posted: Monday, March 24, 2014 - 11:39 AM GMT

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The troop figures should be in poses other than standing around smoking and drinking coffee also.



Haha...what do you think soldiers do most of the time? They don't point at unseen things constantly from the top of tank turrets, they don't jump off the top of tanks with automatic weapons blazing, and they aren't is back breaking crouching running positions.

What's the old saying?..."War is 99% waiting around..."

If anything we need more casually posed modern figures.
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Posted: Monday, March 24, 2014 - 11:44 AM GMT

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One thing for sure: Takom entered dynamically promising in the market and i hope to see more modern Canadian variants: C1 Mexas or LEO 2A4M



Perhaps, we will (insert Muahhh here). Patience young Grasshopper.
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Posted: Monday, March 24, 2014 - 03:08 PM GMT

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One kit at a time gents...the Leopard C2 was only just announced.




Did Takom address the shortcomings of the C2 MEXAS kit, like solid inner road wheels and solid moulded details on the hull sides?

Thomas



What do you mean solid inner road wheel? What details are molded on hull sides? I thought MEXAS armor modules covered the hull sides?
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Posted: Monday, March 24, 2014 - 03:49 PM GMT

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One kit at a time gents...the Leopard C2 was only just announced.




Did Takom address the shortcomings of the C2 MEXAS kit, like solid inner road wheels and solid moulded details on the hull sides?

Thomas



What do you mean solid inner road wheel? What details are molded on hull sides? I thought MEXAS armor modules covered the hull sides?



On the Takom C2 MEXAS the shocks are molded to the lower hull rather than needing attachment. The road wheels have no detail on the rear sides. You are correct that the majority of these details are masked by the front side of the road wheels, the tracks, and the hull MEXAS.

You can see sprue shot images on this previous thread...

http://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=217821&page=1
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Well I guess I will have to defer to the resident expert of everything and anything. I just wonder what you were doing when you were out of the turret oh probably a bowel movement that would be a pose we haven't seen before. Pretty sure the Infantry have things other than riding targets around but then again it isn't Granpa's time anymore or even mine. I remember lots of digging and sand bagging maybe thats just for the UN though. Oh the Sarcasm is free and you can guide me to a modern Canadian figure drinking coffee can't you oh wait a minute I don't think there are any. How about a gun crew firing the triple 7 oh there are not either oh what about the modern Canadian Infantry and engineers or sniper teams hey I got it why don't we get a kit of the Tim hortons they opened in Kandahar good place for guys in the rear to hang around just thinking it may make a hell of a dio get a few majors and sgt's a couple wo's and such kicken up watchin the game. No need to have figures that actually have a purpose other than the hundreds already floating around with thumbs up their asses. After all war is just like life 99% waiting around and 1% shear terror. Not that I would be able to know anything about either if it interferes with the 20th kit of a leopard running off the lines just like all the tigers and panthers and shermans and figure kits that are all meant to show guys that only go near what could be a front line in order to get a ticket punched or a medal for being anywhere within 100 kms of a possible enemy. Oh have a beer on me next time you enlighten everyone with the knowledge that transcends the Canadian Forces equipment from Present to when JC was a pvt pushing a mule. And indeed the sarcasm is very free in this case.
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Posted: Monday, March 24, 2014 - 04:44 PM GMT
who the hell looks at the bottom of a kit? Man just build one in the garage and count bolts there. I am getting so tired of hearing oh my god this is 2 mm off for Christs sake. 2 years ago you were complaining we had no Cdn vehicles and now you are there with the correction list to them all. Some of us like putting kits together to put on shelf's or in scenes with guys drinking coffee waiting for something to happen because you can't always be pointing out of a turret now can we. Seems we can work a micrometer really well for running the big targets on the field Oh damn was that my outside voice
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Posted: Monday, March 24, 2014 - 05:29 PM GMT
Wow Al, sounds like you better cut back on said coffee! You build your way, we'll build our way. It's all good...

Jim
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Posted: Monday, March 24, 2014 - 09:30 PM GMT

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One kit at a time gents...the Leopard C2 was only just announced.




Did Takom address the shortcomings of the C2 MEXAS kit, like solid inner road wheels and solid moulded details on the hull sides?

Thomas



What do you mean solid inner road wheel? What details are molded on hull sides? I thought MEXAS armor modules covered the hull sides?



On the Takom C2 MEXAS the shocks are molded to the lower hull rather than needing attachment. The road wheels have no detail on the rear sides. You are correct that the majority of these details are masked by the front side of the road wheels, the tracks, and the hull MEXAS.

You can see sprue shot images on this previous thread...

http://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=217821&page=1



Okay, the shocks and bump stops for the torsion bar arms are molded on. Looks like to allow the torsion bar suspension to move, the shocks don't actually connect to the torsion bar swing arm, as it should for sake of accuracy. So it sacrifice quite a bit of hidden accuracy for the sake of movable suspension. Which sort of sucks.




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Posted: Monday, March 24, 2014 - 10:47 PM GMT
Somehow I get this feeling that other producers will soon hijack the Leopard 1 train and come forward with further new kits.
Object 279 or so comes to mind .... weirdest tank of all but 3 different kits popped up within a month.
I think it is about time we modelers deserve a proper reproduction of this important tank

Cheers
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Posted: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 - 01:13 AM GMT

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Well I guess I will have to defer to the resident expert of everything and anything. I just wonder what you were doing when you were out of the turret oh probably a bowel movement that would be a pose we haven't seen before. Pretty sure the Infantry have things other than riding targets around but then again it isn't Granpa's time anymore or even mine. I remember lots of digging and sand bagging maybe thats just for the UN though. Oh the Sarcasm is free and you can guide me to a modern Canadian figure drinking coffee can't you oh wait a minute I don't think there are any. How about a gun crew firing the triple 7 oh there are not either oh what about the modern Canadian Infantry and engineers or sniper teams hey I got it why don't we get a kit of the Tim hortons they opened in Kandahar good place for guys in the rear to hang around just thinking it may make a hell of a dio get a few majors and sgt's a couple wo's and such kicken up watchin the game. No need to have figures that actually have a purpose other than the hundreds already floating around with thumbs up their asses. After all war is just like life 99% waiting around and 1% shear terror. Not that I would be able to know anything about either if it interferes with the 20th kit of a leopard running off the lines just like all the tigers and panthers and shermans and figure kits that are all meant to show guys that only go near what could be a front line in order to get a ticket punched or a medal for being anywhere within 100 kms of a possible enemy. Oh have a beer on me next time you enlighten everyone with the knowledge that transcends the Canadian Forces equipment from Present to when JC was a pvt pushing a mule. And indeed the sarcasm is very free in this case.



I was joking with my post...i.e...starting it with Haha. I am truly sorry if your hackles were raised and you feel slighted or offended. No need for that and that was not my intent.

If you are interested in new figures and modern Canadian kits perhaps take some of your time to conduct research and gather information and make formal proposals to established model companies as to why they should create the kits you mentioned.
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Posted: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 - 04:44 AM GMT

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Well... for a C1 MEXAS, they would only have to do the MEXAS turret armor if I am correct (but I'm not an expert)!



The C1 MEXAS requires an entirely new turret...the welded 1A3/1A4 turret with Canadian modifications plus a unique open turret bustle rack in addition to the C1 turret MEXAS. The hull MEXAS is the same as on the C2.

One kit at a time gents...the Leopard C2 was only just announced.




Yes, you are right Jason, I had the Meng kit in mind... :-( and since Takom doesn't produce an A3/A4, then we might not see a C1 in the near future! :-(

My bad...
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Posted: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 - 05:13 AM GMT

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Well... for a C1 MEXAS, they would only have to do the MEXAS turret armor if I am correct (but I'm not an expert)!



The C1 MEXAS requires an entirely new turret...the welded 1A3/1A4 turret with Canadian modifications plus a unique open turret bustle rack in addition to the C1 turret MEXAS. The hull MEXAS is the same as on the C2.

One kit at a time gents...the Leopard C2 was only just announced.




Yes, you are right Jason, I had the Meng kit in mind... :-( and since Takom doesn't produce an A3/A4, then we might not see a C1 in the near future! :-(

My bad...



Only time will tell...but what do I know?
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Posted: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 - 05:36 AM GMT
Also, it wouldn't be a big deal now for Takom to offer a Leo 1, 1A1, 1A1A1m and 1A2.

If they can offer a kit of the one off Soviet 4 track flying saucer tank, They should also offer a Leo 1A6, the one off experiment to put a Leo2 gun and turret front protection on a Leo 1.