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Landkreuzer P-1000 Ratte
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Posted: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 - 04:03 PM UTC
I like the Triebflügels, but air cover for the Ratte would need to come from somewhere else anyway. I believe the mein purpose of the on board helicopters is supposed to be artillery observation and reconnaissance, i.e. nothing the Triebflügel could do reasonably well.
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Posted: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 - 01:34 PM UTC
The idea of a Triebvogel or two to provide point defense against enemy aircraft is great. The greatest danger to a beast like this would be dive bombers.
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Posted: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 - 01:29 PM UTC

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I feel like I'm letting folks down.



Don't be silly Mike your not letting us down at all. All major projects get bogged down by life at some point!


Paul
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Posted: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 - 01:00 PM UTC

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You could have them installed and the Ratt crew preparing to repaint them to match the main hull.



That's a possible Salt.

Thoughts on those colors above? I'm kinda lost on what they are.

Mike



Hey Mike,

the first one (ambush scheme)uses the classic Dunkelgelb and Schokoladenbraun/ Rotbraun of German late war camos. THe third colour IMHO is too dark and greyish to be Dunkelgrün. It's more of a drak grey (panzer grey) with maybe a little green hue to it.

The second one is in medium green and buff/ earth...

It's a bit sad people have stopped commenting/ replying in this thread...
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Posted: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 - 09:21 AM UTC
Hi Mike,

Just catching up on your project this evening and saw the picture of your wound....OUCH!!!! Hope you are healing up okay.

Somebody might have suggested this already. I was thinking of the helicopter deck on your Landkreuzer P-1000 Ratte and just that maybe a Focke-Wulf Triebflügel would look cool there.





Not my place to suggest or anything. Just thought it might be kind of cool. Hope your wound heals quickly. Enjoying watching your project come along.

Randy
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Posted: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 - 07:57 AM UTC

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You could have them installed and the Ratt crew preparing to repaint them to match the main hull.



That's a possible Salt.

Thoughts on those colors above? I'm kinda lost on what they are.

Mike
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Posted: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 - 07:36 AM UTC
You could have them installed and the Ratt crew preparing to repaint them to match the main hull.
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Posted: Thursday, August 13, 2015 - 07:51 AM UTC
Hey all, what three colors do you see on this Kugel turret?
This is one scheme that will be on the Ratte:



How about this one?



I'd like one of each of the above schemes. The other two should be the same color...I'm leaning towards Panzer Grey. Other option is Dunkelgelb. Thoughts on the color for the two solid ones??

Mike
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Posted: Thursday, August 13, 2015 - 07:38 AM UTC
Grandson came in from Texas and he spent the weekend with us (he's almost 5) so...didn't get anything done but a coat of British desert "yellow" on the interior of my Quad Gun Tractor.

I feel like I'm letting folks down.

SO...I think I'm going to Panzer Grey one of the Kugelblitz's and weather it and get it all assembled, then start mapping out the camo for another. I really do need to get some of that done.

After I get a warm and fuzzy from some paint, I really need to get the "feet" on this beastie. I really can't do any detail work (rails, ladders, and the like) and then be able to put this upside down to do the road wheels. That's the plan. Time for some "me" time.

Mike

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Posted: Thursday, August 06, 2015 - 10:42 AM UTC
Welcome back, Mike! Keep all ten!

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Posted: Thursday, August 06, 2015 - 08:03 AM UTC
Healing up pretty good. Still fugly looking. I had the stitches taken out Saturday and yesterday I realized the fugnuts left one in. Eh, a little pullin', a little pokin', and some scissors...it's out.

So, if given the opportunity this weekend, I think the Ratte is ready for some more attention.

Mike
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Posted: Sunday, July 26, 2015 - 09:28 AM UTC
Hello Mike,
Ouch! Could of been worse. Reminds me of when my Dad ran a Skill saw up his leg, came within 1 inch of taking his knee out. 2x4 kicked back on him.

Hope it heals up right.

See ya in the funnies.........
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Posted: Sunday, July 26, 2015 - 07:44 AM UTC
Over 30 years of working with various sized and branded table saws and up until this, I've only had two kick-backs. Eh, one KB left a scar...but this? Oy.

Thanks for the well-wishes. I shall heal and return to the beastie.

Mike
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Posted: Sunday, July 26, 2015 - 06:25 AM UTC
Sorry to hear about your mishap. Been there, done that. Hope to never do it again. Wouldn't wish it on anyone. Heal quickly!

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Posted: Sunday, July 26, 2015 - 12:41 AM UTC
Whoa! Gonna take a bunch of plastic putty and sanding sticks to make that gap disappear! Hope it heals quickly Mike, we all want to see what happens to the Ratte...

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Posted: Saturday, July 25, 2015 - 11:17 PM UTC
Tough one, Mike. Hope you get better quick!
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Posted: Saturday, July 25, 2015 - 11:07 PM UTC
It's closed up pretty good. Was shy of a 1/4 inch wide. Think "pink hamburger."

Mike (still a block head)
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Posted: Saturday, July 25, 2015 - 10:55 PM UTC

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Sorry all, table saw bit me. Guess wood wasn't enough for it.



Difficult to work with one and a quarter hands. Until the stitches come out I'm "benched."

Mike

Blue stitches. Woohooooo!



Ouch that must sting a bit, bad luck.

Paul
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Posted: Saturday, July 25, 2015 - 09:04 PM UTC
Sorry all, table saw bit me. Guess wood wasn't enough for it.



Difficult to work with one and a quarter hands. Until the stitches come out I'm "benched."

Mike

Blue stitches. Woohooooo!
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Posted: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 - 11:43 AM UTC
Or slow-roll it until school is back in session and have another go at finding an metal shop student needing a project

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Posted: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 - 11:29 AM UTC
Hey Mike,

You could see about using the 38cm Siegfried K (E) rail gun barrels. Length is 60ft. 5in. L/48.4 per wikipedia specs. Only 4 produced however. Could be a happy medium.

See ya in the funnies..............
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Posted: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 - 05:14 AM UTC
Just got the quote for two of the K5 turned barrels. $186.00 shipped. No can do.

Still working on the other options; a couple of which are going good.

Mike
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Posted: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 - 08:00 AM UTC
They are located at HQ Hobbies in CT.
Contact them through the Website
http://www.hqhobbies.com

I've personally seen one. Email and inquire about it.

Sorry the I meant K5 which is 76 calibers versus 55 calibers of the SK C/34
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Posted: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 - 07:11 AM UTC
I think the K5 barrels are about 20 feet too short based on the drawing that shows the Ratte guns as being 68 feet. A 68' barrel should be about 592mm in 1/35 scale. The barrel piece in the K5 kit is 392mm.

BUT - I cannot determine if the 68' refers to the entire length or just the portion exposed outside the turret. It is possible if it is counting the whole length from tip to breech then they just may be the ticket.

How much are those metal barrels? And would they fit the Dragon version without too much effort? I have to say I've never seen them for sale so are they still available?
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Posted: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 - 06:48 AM UTC
Mike,
I found these:

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/469115-armo-35781-gun-barrel-for-280mm-k5-e-leopold

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/232814-schatton-modellbau-3510-28cm-k5-e-rohr-f-r-trumpeter

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/226283-rb-model-35p31-28cm-k5-leopold

Cheers Rob.