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RN LCP (R)
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Posted: Saturday, December 08, 2012 - 03:42 AM UTC
Looks Great Alan. The figures came out excellent, and add some interest to the model. Al
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Posted: Saturday, December 08, 2012 - 06:16 AM UTC
Hi Al,

Many thanks, I'll have to re-visit the original version as I learn't a lot of new stuff on this build

Cheers

Alan
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Posted: Sunday, December 09, 2012 - 03:39 AM UTC
Hi folks,

One of the things I totally missed were the access hatches to the gun tubs. This detail seems totally missing from the kit but I won't beat myself up too much as I've only just found out they exist.

These would be an easy fix prior to construction and make a lot of difference to the inside look of the boat but no so easy when you have construction complete. I'm experimenting with scribing these in on the original armoured version I built.

Also the forward armoured bulkhead falls forward on some hinges so removal of the front vertical holding bar would be in order.

What we really need is a new accurate plastic boat, but in the interim I'll play with this one which is fun.

There were two armoured doors that seem to swing forward either side of the front of the engine housing, again another missing detail but as the Revelle kit is of a later UDT boat and not an LCPR then one can't really complain.

Cheers

Al
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Posted: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 10:15 PM UTC
Hi folks,

Went back and added a bit more detail to the original boat. Added the rear missing section, a host of rivets, horizontal planking, throttle, forward bulkhead and experimented with scribing in one of the missing gun tub access doors on the port side. This was tricky and not as easy as working on the un-constructed part but does make a difference to what in the kit was a blank area. The starboard door was already hidden by a tarp so I left it that way.

Progress:



Al
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Posted: Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 03:55 AM UTC
Hey Al, came out pretty good. Love the R.N. cammo colors. A few questions you might be able to answer for me. #1, the large raised triangle on the aft deck, what is it for? Doesn't appear on any pics I've seen so far. I see a cleat to tie off in front of it and what appears to be an air intakes. Should the large one stay or be removed? #2, was it standard practice for the R.N. to remove the inner bow door or was that mission optional? #3, are the riveted plates extra armor, because if I remember rightly (questionable at times) these boats were made from wood. Thanks, bob
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Posted: Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 08:18 AM UTC
Hi Bob,

That's a good question to which I don't know the answer but well spotted. Looking at the Reference pictures it isn't there so I should have removed it and will now probably do so. Thanks for the extra eyes. There does seem to be some sort of air vent where it sits.

Yes, I believe the boats were wood, with just the front bulkhead and armoured doors, mid section in steel. I doubt it was removed as it just fell forward on some hinges but the forward holding bar on the kit needs to come off. I added one in one the USN version I'm tarting up and need to do the same on the British Boat but I used much thinner plastic than the kit part, although you could file it down but probably easier to replace it.

I don't have any kind of spec on the boat, so can't say what the bits are. It does appear through that the engine housing may have been square and not tapered which was a feature of the LCP L. I also don't know if the LCP R was a reworked version of the LCP L or a new design altogether, or perhaps a bit of both.

I've picked up that much new information about the boat I'm tempted to get another that I could make the fixes on before building and add in the missing 4 ft lol,, lol.

Cheers

Al
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Posted: Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 12:00 PM UTC
Hey Al quick reply which I thank you for. I have been trying to collect as much info for the L.C.'s before I work on them. That strange triangular thing is even on Lindburgs old P.T. boat and the L.C.V.P.. No-one I know of can figure it out either. Well I will say it was a nice build and following it taught me a few more things. Looking forward to your next L.C. build. Almost forgot, checked out U-models site and didn't see the update set for Indochina. But I did the old L.C.V.P. as a French river boat hauling supplies, Can send you some pics through the mail as my computer is down and has a melt down (and so do I) every time I try to post pics. bob
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Posted: Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 11:31 PM UTC
Hi Bob,

I asked Darren to run a story on U Models a few weeks back, you can see the kits there.

http://armorama.kitmaker.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=12951&mode=thread&order=0

PM me your email address and I'll send what I have along with a pdf copy of the catalogue.

I might start on a more detailed conversion of the LCP R that way when I get it almost done we are bound to get a new boat lol, lol.

These are the two current efforts. I'll still need to try and put gun tub access doors onto the British boat and remove the cone and add some vents.







Cheers

Al

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Posted: Monday, December 17, 2012 - 04:05 AM UTC
Hi folks,

With the fixes on to the stern cone and gun tub doors added.








Cheers

Al
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Posted: Monday, December 17, 2012 - 11:52 AM UTC


Don't know what it is, but here's a photo of the mysterious cone on a LCVP. Al
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Posted: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 11:36 AM UTC
Hey Al & Al, think I have it figured out. Maybe the earlier ones or later ones had this cone. We see evidence that some do or don't. It seems to sit right above the rudder or near it. Could it be that when the cone was unbolted it covered part of the steering to the rudder where the emergency tiller went if the steering went out. Some of the kits have an auxiliary tiller with them, right? Anyone who really knows can chime in at any time. Oh, and Al, nice fleet you have going there. Now where's the finished Vosper Al? Still having a hard time crewing it. All these Al's in one post is getting confusing.
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Posted: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 - 03:04 AM UTC
Hi Bob,

Yes, some have it some don't, hence the removal of same from your observation.

Thanks, I'm pretty happy with the way the RN version turned out and it was worth the effort to upgrade the original US build.

I do hope we see some of the LCPL family coming into being in the form of a new boat.

On the Vosper's I probably won't get around to starting them until the Spring as I've work to do on the Somme and Street scenes which I hope to work on over Christmas.

Talking crew the new U models figures are on route and I am hoping we may see some additional crew from Wee Friends next year, possibly some RN chaps in shorts etc which would be a nice addition to their range and fit the second build well.

Need to clear a bit of space though, but the LCPR build got me in the mood again.

Cheers

Al
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Posted: Sunday, December 23, 2012 - 01:42 AM UTC
This is the little assault boat from the kit: Paddles from Resicast.



The DML Kayak I'm attempting to convert to a Mk II boat



Al

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Posted: Thursday, December 27, 2012 - 10:59 PM UTC
Hi folks,

Pretty much finished the two small boats.





The kit rubber boat looks more like a 4 man raft.

DML Kayak converted to a WW2 Mk II version.



Cheers

Al