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Armor/AFV: Axis - WWII
Armor and ground forces of the Axis forces during World War II.
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Maus 1:35 with interior
FlorinM
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Bucuresti, Romania
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Posted: Friday, April 04, 2014 - 07:18 AM GMT+7
The campaign to fund the Maus book is now live. If any of you guys would like to give a helping hand, this is the link:
New Maus Book
Late edit: Campaign was a failure, with only 3 backers and 50 euros that were returned at the end...
Zaaphod
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Slovakia
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Posted: Saturday, April 05, 2014 - 04:37 AM GMT+7
Donated, as promissed. Keep up the great work!
FlorinM
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Posted: Monday, April 07, 2014 - 04:38 AM GMT+7
Thank you for the vote of confidence. Hopefully the project materializes and you will have a signed copy from me. I was thinking of a blend of history with references for the modellers, something that won't be boring. Something that begins with the Mammut (with its smaller turret stacked on top of the main one) and ends with the 15 cm armed Maus II.
ceerosvk
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Posted: Friday, April 11, 2014 - 12:13 PM GMT+7
Maybe they got inspired by you!
FlorinM
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Posted: Saturday, April 12, 2014 - 11:19 AM GMT+7
The news leave mixed feelings. It is good to clean the hulk that rusts away, but if they don't do an accurate job, it will become even more difficult to investigate how it looked in its original WWII state. I just hope that they don't use the drawings shown in the video...
SDavies
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Posted: Saturday, April 12, 2014 - 05:02 PM GMT+7

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The news leave mixed feelings. It is good to clean the hulk that rusts away, but if they don't do an accurate job, it will become even more difficult to investigate how it looked in its original WWII state. I just hope that they don't use the drawings shown in the video...



Yes I agree, they must do a good job restoring the tank but this is positive news.

I would imagine that they are going to mount a modern power unit in the tank though which will have implications on the internal layout.
HotPotato
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Posted: Sunday, April 13, 2014 - 07:00 AM GMT+7
Hello, I joined just to follow this great thread as the Maus has always fascinated me. But now to learn they are going to restore it! WOW!! Does anyone have a guess as to how long this will take and how much money? I will guess 5yrs and $20million US dollars, since they much modify the museum or build Maus it's own showroom.

Tom
FlorinM
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Posted: Sunday, April 13, 2014 - 08:04 AM GMT+7
This restoration could answer to questions such as what is the exact shape of the track rail above the roadwheel bogies. Or could really mess things up. I've heard that at least the original generator unit is somewhere in a technical museum in some forgotten russian town. Hopefully they will scrounge up some other parts. With regard to the engine, maybe they will collaborate with Daimler-Benz?
The amount of work involved is staggering, because they wreaked havoc with the cutting torch while gutting it in the early to mid 1950's.
HotPotato
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Posted: Sunday, April 13, 2014 - 08:32 AM GMT+7
Hi Florin, I am amazed at your technical knowledge of the Maus details. Can you guess who was manning the Maus when it was sent to Zossen? Would it have been a mix of factory personnel and military tankers? And do you know what road they traveled on? It must have amazed townspeople as it passed through. Thanks.
FlorinM
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Posted: Monday, April 14, 2014 - 07:47 AM GMT+7
The only long distance journey under its own power took place on 21st of April, 1945 from Kummersdorf to Wunsdorf, 30 kilometers away, guzzling 350 liters of Diesel fuel for every 10 kilometers. Otherwise it traveled by railroad, on its huge, purpose designed rail-car.
The crew was part of Kampfgruppe Kahler, a mixture of civilians and veterans turned instructors.
A civilian that is known to have driven the Maus was Oberingenieur Otto Zadnik.
dweeb203
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Jakarta Raya, Indonesia
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Posted: Tuesday, May 06, 2014 - 11:14 PM GMT+7
Hey florin! really great build you're doing there! I wonder how long would it take for me to be able to do scratchbuild like that! If my friend knew about this, he'll surely freak out because he's a fanatic of maus (and other german heavy tank)! By the way, are you planning to display it closed or opened to show the interior?
FlorinM
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Posted: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 - 12:50 AM GMT+7
As intended from the very beginning it will be closed up, a replica of the real thing. If possible, the hatches will be workable.
Roshindow
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Posted: Friday, May 09, 2014 - 07:54 PM GMT+7
Regarding Maus restoration, from Nicholas Moran, director of World of Tanks NA Militaria Relations, "Near as I can tell, the goal is to get the thing to clank along using whatever motor and transmission they can find. The mantlet will certainly have to be secured."
Sadly they might not respect historicity
FlorinM
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Posted: Saturday, May 10, 2014 - 10:43 AM GMT+7
I dreaded it would happen so, since the term used by one the "experts" in charge was rebuild instead of restore...
Roshindow
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Posted: Monday, May 12, 2014 - 04:39 AM GMT+7
I'm sorry for posting another off topic post, but apparently Kubinka museum hasn't yet agreed on a collaboration with Wargaming.net, they say they will never prioritize the restration of a german tank over a russian one, and that there was a lack of patriotism from the russian websites announcing otherwise...

Post on FTR, a WoT blog
jmsbd07
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Posted: Monday, May 12, 2014 - 04:28 PM GMT+7
heres a what if, do you think that has the maus gone into service would it have had zimm ?
FlorinM
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Posted: Monday, May 12, 2014 - 05:15 PM GMT+7
Absolutely not! The purpose of the Zimmerit was combating magnetically attached anti-tank mines, something that only the Germans had at the time. It would have been useless on the Maus due to the thickness of its armor. Mines would simply leave a blackened area on the hull. Besides, the application of Zimmerit was discontinued around September 1944 when it was realized that magnetic mines were very, very seldom used.
Roshindow
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Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 - 10:12 AM GMT+7
Ehm, I'm sorry I have to post again some "gossip" related to the Maus reconstruction, but countrary to my previuous post, Kubinka museum confirmed they're restoring the Maus in collaboration with Wargaming, the previous statement was apparently posted by an employee without his boss approval.

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FlorinM
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Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 - 12:45 PM GMT+7
For those that are unaware of its current state, the Kubinka hybrid is nothing but an empty carcass that rusts from inside out, having been gutted in the early 1950's. For comparison, the subject of this build blog is more complete than the hulk in the russian museum. I would just like to see the state of decay stopped. But we'll see what the future holds...
Chuck4
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Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 - 02:08 PM GMT+7

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I'm sorry for posting another off topic post, but apparently Kubinka museum hasn't yet agreed on a collaboration with Wargaming.net, they say they will never prioritize the restration of a german tank over a russian one, and that there was a lack of patriotism from the russian websites announcing otherwise...




In reality what they restore probably depends on whether denations funding the museum come with stipulations attached.


jmsbd07
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Posted: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 - 09:20 AM GMT+7
WG probably has enough cash to build a Maus from scratch.
FlorinM
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Posted: Thursday, June 12, 2014 - 08:47 AM GMT+7
The purpose of the three circular apertures is to connect the generator to an auxiliary motor:
FlorinM
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Posted: Sunday, June 15, 2014 - 07:19 AM GMT+7
The frames for the cooling units were very sturdy because they doubled as supports for the engine deck with its shot deflectors. Hypothetical arrangement of the vertical braces, reflecting the final configuration, with the fuel tanks enlarged at the radiators' expense.

Braille
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Posted: Monday, June 16, 2014 - 12:15 AM GMT+7
@FlorinM Florin,

Its good to see you making progress on this vehicle. Im enjoying the commentary youve been providing of the separate parts that make up the interior, very informative, making this vehicle that much more remarkable!

~ Eddy
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Posted: Monday, June 16, 2014 - 09:07 AM GMT+7
Great update Florin! I can totally see the Kubinka Maus in your fantastic model. Do you know if the tank had cooling problems because of the mod to the fuel tanks or did it have these problems from the beginning?

Keep up the great work,
Alex