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Panda M-ATV build and improvements
WXerock
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Posted: Sunday, October 16, 2016 - 10:28 AM UTC
Hakan, PM me your email address and I'll send them to you.

Regards,

Eric
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Posted: Saturday, October 15, 2016 - 11:18 PM UTC
Yes please do that Eric, it would be very helpfull, i have the old instructions.. Or if you send me a message and you can send them on email...
Thanks!
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Posted: Saturday, October 15, 2016 - 10:59 PM UTC
Hello all, I am doing some pre build research for a build of the model. I looked at all of the images in this build showing issues with the instructions. I am pleased to say that Panda fixed every one of the issues Nigel pointed out here. It will make the build a bit easier. I hope if anyone has the older version they will see this thread and correct their instructions. If anyone is interest I can upload the corrected instructions here.

Regards,

Eric
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Posted: Thursday, December 31, 2015 - 03:08 AM UTC
Hi Sean,

Yes, the M-ATV build can be a handful! I've built a couple of them, and, for what it's worth, the suspension is the hardest part. As you already know, none of the parts fit well, all require clean up, and so on. That said, they can look pretty nice when done!

I've never done a specific post on building one, but if it's of any help, take a look at pages 3 and 4 of a dio I did post - it's in the Diorama section and is called "Rough Road, on the Road Again". I decided to go for it on the M-ATV - adding etch parts, wire springs, working steering (turn-able front wheels that is) and so on. You'll see a few WIP pictures that might be useful - good luck with your build!

Cheers
Nick
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Posted: Thursday, December 31, 2015 - 03:06 AM UTC
Yeah, saw the news about Pro Art....shame really because they have lovely stuff but could never afford their really big sets. The War Pig was always appealing to me....

Was it 4 years ago you started? About time you finished then.... 😄
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Posted: Thursday, December 31, 2015 - 02:20 AM UTC

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Glad I could help Nigel. 😀

Check out the Blast site also. They too have a nice looking MRAP radio set. I went for the Pro Art only because I wanted some of their other stuff too..,

Looking forward to seeing this on the go again



I find all this a bit unreal... You come along and post on a kit I started nearly four years ago, then inform me there are radios and stuff available for the kit. Today I find out Pro art are closing down, so I get my order in and it gets accepted!!!

It's almost like there is someone watching over this kit and making darn sure it gets built??

Thankyou so much Sean..
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Posted: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 - 11:03 PM UTC
Hi Nigel,

Very nice subject. Nice updates one your model. Not sure I will rebuilt the springs on mine.

Thanks for pointing mistakes in the instructions, very usefull.



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Posted: Monday, December 28, 2015 - 06:09 PM UTC
Glad I could help Nigel. 😀

Check out the Blast site also. They too have a nice looking MRAP radio set. I went for the Pro Art only because I wanted some of their other stuff too..,

Looking forward to seeing this on the go again
gloucesternige
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Posted: Monday, December 28, 2015 - 02:41 PM UTC

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I've seen those Roger with all the add-ons and they do look fantastic, but I'm lookingfor a build log where someone else has found all the flaws.

So far have got to about step 5 and finding it very frustrating. But having ordered the Pro Art radios and stowage I'm determined to push on....



Thanks for your message Sean.

You have let me know there are radios and storage available, so now I will press on with it.. when I have the time and inclination!!
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Posted: Monday, December 28, 2015 - 01:15 AM UTC
I've seen those Roger with all the add-ons and they do look fantastic, but I'm lookingfor a build log where someone else has found all the flaws.

So far have got to about step 5 and finding it very frustrating. But having ordered the Pro Art radios and stowage I'm determined to push on....
rogerjo1
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Posted: Sunday, December 27, 2015 - 10:22 PM UTC
Look on Pro art models website in the gallery there and you will see 2 amazing kits of the M-atv
Hisham
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Posted: Sunday, December 27, 2015 - 07:26 PM UTC
You can find some on YouTube , but nothing in great detail

Hisham
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Posted: Sunday, December 27, 2015 - 07:19 PM UTC
Started this kit a few months ago and quit after step 1. Very poor fit and molding in my opinion for a modern kit. It is an impressive looking machine none the less and with these corrections I my decide to push on. Like you I do wish someone would finish...perhaps this is a bad sign.
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Posted: Sunday, December 27, 2015 - 06:52 PM UTC
Hi Nigel, Des, Anyone.....

Did anyone go any further on their builds? Currently starting mine and the only completed blog I can find is Pascal's.....surely some other mere mortal has managed to complete one of these?

Cheers
Sean
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Posted: Sunday, October 14, 2012 - 05:00 AM UTC
Looks great so far.....
CJ3B
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Posted: Sunday, October 14, 2012 - 02:19 AM UTC
Hello Gents!

Any update to this build? Some other link?

This was looking impressive! WOuld like to see the rest of the build.

Thanks!

Jorge
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Posted: Saturday, August 04, 2012 - 11:02 PM UTC
so what has become of this build very informative i must say about to start mine ....
gloucesternige
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Posted: Friday, February 17, 2012 - 11:06 PM UTC
What a fantastic recovery Des!!! Well done.

Thanks Pete for pointing out the missing part location. I shall add this to my corrections list, to be done at the end of this build.

I asked the question about the seats, as all three of mine had no supports on them. Obviously the pegs broke off and remained in the mould tool, so every sprue moulded following that one will not have the pegs. So much for quality control!!

Nige
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Posted: Friday, February 17, 2012 - 05:05 PM UTC
Hi Nigel,

Man! i was pissed to realised i had made a big booboo on the suspension. building another just to get a correct suspension ain't gonna happen. well....took the underframe apart.......praying along the way that i dun wreck anything. see the results...



plently of small parts dropped off and i would have to stick em back later. Phew!!!! wat a roller coaster ride for this kit........enjoying it thoroghly. thanks for pointing my booboo out.

the seats are designed with pegs to bring them up over the floor board. see pic



Anyway, hope my booboos are lesson learnt for the many who will attempt this kit.

Regards,
Des
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Posted: Friday, February 17, 2012 - 04:53 PM UTC
Hi Pete,

Thanks for sharing. i completely missed that part. heres a pic for those who might be wondering where the part is.



regards,
Des
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Posted: Friday, February 17, 2012 - 12:21 PM UTC
Nige,
That photo etch part #7 is the PLGR mount. It goes right next to the FBCB2 display. Look at step 11 and 12, you can barely see it, but that is what it's for.

Pete
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Posted: Friday, February 17, 2012 - 08:14 AM UTC
Thanks Des,I should have noticed that!!

I hate to be the bearer of bad news my friend, but you have made a little error on your kit...

The coil springs on the front are supposed to be in front of the wheel centre-line.

The completely wrong instructions at the suspension build stages have obviously caught you out?? I hope you can rectify at this late stage??

Nice build though, how did you manage to get the three passenger seats up off the floor?

Regards

Nige
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Posted: Friday, February 17, 2012 - 06:29 AM UTC
Hi,

PE-B9 is the hinge for the side mirrors. Please see my pics. Its a really challenging kit but it does look better than the kintic's offering. Well, I know I am enjoying meself. The last pic is the WIP. Thank you for viewing.

Des





here's interior shots......

hope they are helpful



gloucesternige
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Posted: Friday, February 17, 2012 - 04:55 AM UTC
So, on with the build..

I noticed that the transmission tunnel in the kit was a little simplified....



Alarm bells rang when I noticed the tunnel overhung the right main frame rail, so did a little research using Chris Greens amazing walkaround on this very site, and found it should look like this...



Here we can see the frames fitted and etch primed.



I have some advice for anyone contemplating this kit....

Make sure the house is empty before you attempt these PE frames. You will shout and ball a lot. I have bleeted swear words I didn't believe I knew!!!

Thanks for stopping by

Nige

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Posted: Friday, February 17, 2012 - 04:49 AM UTC
I agree DJ, this is a lovely model, with a wealth of detail, it just requires a little skill and patience to build!!

Well, as promised, I'm posting up some more of my findings and my progress..

Firstly, in step 9 the manual shows a bracket across the frame behind the drivers seat, but no kit part that I can find???



Next we go to step12, and you'll see the "box" for the computer keyboard fitted. It's included in the kit, but not referred to earlier in the build...



In step 11, you'll notice the grab handles fitted to the rear of the seats. They're not mentioned in the seat assembly stages, but are shown here. There are only 6 of these handles in the kit, but eight are required. i suggest leaving them off the rear seats??



In this picture of step 8 we can see the mass of errors in the part numbering for the framework. Just follow the numbers in red pen, and you'll be sorted!!



Now for some questions...

Where do you think these go??? They're part PE-B9, called for in step 24, but the part called for should be PE-B18, so these four bits are spare??



Then there is this part....Any ideas???



Hope this helps???

Nige