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Pascal's M-ATV (Panda 1/35)
pascalbausset
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Posted: Monday, November 21, 2011 - 10:25 PM UTC
Here some pics from my M-ATV WIP








Its a long and hard way
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Posted: Monday, November 21, 2011 - 11:05 PM UTC
I liket it!
I think also that with that small glass surfaces it's really hard to see something inside,unless you leave the doors opened.
I'm really curious to see what kind of AM set we'll have in the near future...I'm sure we'll have tires and probably the OGPK turret.
Please post more pics and your thoughts about the building!
Cheers
Ciro
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Posted: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 - 12:51 AM UTC
Thank you for posting these pics.

Could you possibly comment a little about how the kit goes together? Is the fit of the parts good? Are the instructions clear enough? Are the PE parts easy to work with and shape? I notice in the first pic that you used plastic rod in the suspension.. are the kit parts bad in that area?

Thanks again
Hisham
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Posted: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 - 01:02 AM UTC
Looking good. Despite all the flash on the sprues the model certainly seems to shape up ok.

I dont suppose you have any of the Legends Humvee crew figures? I'd like to know whether these fit inside the crew compartment. Someone said on another forum that they heard a rumour the model was a bit undersized.
pascalbausset
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Posted: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 - 02:26 AM UTC

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Looking good. Despite all the flash on the sprues the model certainly seems to shape up ok.

I dont suppose you have any of the Legends Humvee crew figures? I'd like to know whether these fit inside the crew compartment. Someone said on another forum that they heard a rumour the model was a bit undersized.



For the kit size, it look totallly correct for me. The wheelbase from the model is approx 112mm, and the real wheelbase as see in you pics is 154,75 inch. I don't have anymore references measures

For the figures I have a set of them I cantake a look too see if they can go inside.
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Posted: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 - 02:31 AM UTC

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Thank you for posting these pics.

Could you possibly comment a little about how the kit goes together? Is the fit of the parts good? Are the instructions clear enough? Are the PE parts easy to work with and shape? I notice in the first pic that you used plastic rod in the suspension.. are the kit parts bad in that area?

Thanks again
Hisham



The Panda Model kit is the worth kit I have built since many years.
The notice is unclear and have many many errors.
No painting and decal plans
No parst fit correctly, all the reservation holes are to small.
This kit was in the 70's up to date but not today.

Othervise the PE is intersting and details like the chassis are well reproduced.

For motivated modeller only !!!
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Posted: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 - 06:51 AM UTC
I know I've pointed out the kits failings ad nauseum, so I won't here. Your build is looking good. Canc we see a shot of the left side fuel filler area? I'd like to see how that turned out.

Shall we expect a Pascal's Maxx Pro MRAP thread soon?
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Posted: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 - 06:56 AM UTC

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Thank you for posting these pics.

Could you possibly comment a little about how the kit goes together? Is the fit of the parts good? Are the instructions clear enough? Are the PE parts easy to work with and shape? I notice in the first pic that you used plastic rod in the suspension.. are the kit parts bad in that area?

Thanks again
Hisham



The Panda Model kit is the worth kit I have built since many years.
The notice is unclear and have many many errors.
No painting and decal plans
No parst fit correctly, all the reservation holes are to small.
This kit was in the 70's up to date but not today.

Othervise the PE is intersting and details like the chassis are well reproduced.

For motivated modeller only !!!



I agree with Pascal.
The model contains too many parts. Small parts are divided into three or four parts. According to the images I see that Pascal had the same problems with brackets axes. It is better, holders and axes, stick to the frame and then add details.
I think that the model is nice, but can be more work.
PS. Pascal I send you resin wheels in your order. You can used this for M-ATV
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Posted: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 - 07:09 AM UTC

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I think that the model is nice, but can be more work.
PS. Pascal I send you resin wheels in your order. You can used this for M-ATV



Thx Milo for this. The Panda model wheels are very bad.
18Bravo
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Posted: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 - 07:17 AM UTC
Good points. In discussions on the Kinetic offering, it was decided to go with fewer parts for two reasons: simplicity, AND keeping the cost lower.
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Posted: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 - 08:32 AM UTC

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Good points. In discussions on the Kinetic offering, it was decided to go with fewer parts for two reasons: simplicity, AND keeping the cost lower.



I like this kind of decision made by the manufacturers

Pascal, nice build so far despite the difficulties you've already faced. A quand un Buffalo français

Olivier
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Posted: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 - 09:54 AM UTC

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Good points. In discussions on the Kinetic offering, it was decided to go with fewer parts for two reasons: simplicity, AND keeping the cost lower.



I like this kind of decision made by the manufacturers

Pascal, nice build so far despite the difficulties you've already faced. A quand un Buffalo français

Olivier



Thx Olivier.
Bronco has annouced a Buffalo for 2012' beginning !!! Tu l' aura ton buff fernchie
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Posted: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 - 01:34 AM UTC

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Good points. In discussions on the Kinetic offering, it was decided to go with fewer parts for two reasons: simplicity, AND keeping the cost lower.



Lower? The Panda kit is roughly $45 bucks and Lucky is offering the Kinetic kit for $49.99...I know at one point it was $75 bucks....

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Posted: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 - 02:29 AM UTC

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Good points. In discussions on the Kinetic offering, it was decided to go with fewer parts for two reasons: simplicity, AND keeping the cost lower.



Lower? The Panda kit is roughly $45 bucks and Lucky is offering the Kinetic kit for $49.99...I know at one point it was $75 bucks....




Hmmm... Less'n my my math is off here, $49.99 is significantly lower than $75.00.

Notice I didn't say lower than Brand X, just lower. Remember, two and a half months ago Kinetic was still showing CAD drawings of the kit. Nothing had been finalized. Also remember that at that time the Panda kit was not out yet. I don't know if it was available on pre-order, but certainly their price had not been set in stone. Third - think back on the initial list price of the Meng Pickup. It went down quite a bit, and quickly.
I'm not in the business of pricing kits. I do know that someone at Lucky Models is - and that's the price they have set, for now anyway. Not Kinetic. Personally, I can wait. I've got enough other projects going on in the meantime.
Just ask anyone in my family.
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pascalbausset
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Posted: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 - 02:53 AM UTC
Some progress pics :



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Posted: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 - 04:11 AM UTC
The brake lines look good. How did you figure those out? Did the kit come with any wires or solder?
pascalbausset
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Posted: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 - 04:48 AM UTC
Thanks, the lines and the cargo grille are not included in the box. The lines are soldering wire (5/10mm)
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Posted: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 - 01:26 PM UTC
Wonderful!!! The kit itself's still in 80's quality when I saw the review the first time, But u did a very good job, U saved the kit!

Jay
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Posted: Thursday, November 24, 2011 - 05:41 AM UTC

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I know I've pointed out the kits failings ad nauseum, so I won't here. Your build is looking good. Canc we see a shot of the left side fuel filler area? I'd like to see how that turned out.

Shall we expect a Pascal's Maxx Pro MRAP thread soon?



Yes I 'am waiting for my Maxx Pro
I try to take this pics, but as Ihave just painting the rear wheels protections that is not clear.


I will make another later
Some news pics








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Posted: Thursday, November 24, 2011 - 05:51 AM UTC
Hi Pascal

Did you see my PM ?

Frenchy
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Posted: Thursday, November 24, 2011 - 05:55 AM UTC
nice job!
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Posted: Thursday, November 24, 2011 - 05:57 AM UTC

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Hi Pascal

Did you see my PM ?

Frenchy



Yes I just answer
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Posted: Thursday, November 24, 2011 - 07:07 AM UTC
Hi Pascal...
is the second ogpk a voyager set?
Ciro
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Posted: Thursday, November 24, 2011 - 07:15 AM UTC

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Hi Pascal...
is the second ogpk a voyager set?
Ciro


No that's a Legend OGPK far better for me. i' have build 5 or 6 of them