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T-55M3 & Cuban BTR 60 w/ T55 turret
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Posted: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - 06:22 AM UTC
They put alot of effort into up grading a vehicle you can take out with a 50cal. The BTR60 has very thin armor. We trained to use the TCs MG on them. Its the only armored vehicle I ever heard the hull ring when I tapped the side.

Tom
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Posted: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - 04:29 AM UTC
BTR 60 hull width is approx 2820mm

T-55 turret ring is approx 1800mm

I see in the pics that they added vertical armour under the turret to take up the overhang, does anybody have the external dimensions of the T-55 turret?


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Posted: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - 04:24 AM UTC
Maybe is a naive observation but

Can a BTR 60 carry the weight of a t-55 turret?...
Jacques
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Posted: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - 04:01 AM UTC
If it really is a T-54 turret, and not just someone mistaking a Type62/63 turret for it, they they really gutted the armor out of it to make it work. Want to see what I mean...put a T-55 turret on a BTR-60 upper hull. You will have overhang that is not present on the real vehicle.

I am not yet convinced it is not a ID mistake. With the Type 62 in particular being a downsized T-54/55 model, it can be darn hard to ID them.
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Posted: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - 01:35 AM UTC
http://www.military-today.com/artillery/cuban_fsv.htm


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ComradeMP
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Posted: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 - 08:08 PM UTC
From the info I've found, says they are t-54/55 turrets recycled from old tanks while the old tank chassis have been converted to SA-2/3 SAM TEL's. Turret's been modded, storage/ammo rack has been added at the back of the tank (changing the shape of the turret) and is packing 100MM main gun modded and a muzzle brake added.

Some other interesting BTR cuban mods:

"Various local adaptations of the BTR-60 APC as an infantry fighting vehicle and AAA using twin 37mm and twin 23mm guns. Middle one has a modified T-54 tank turret and bottom left has a BMP-1 turret. All widely deployed. "

credits to Planeman on mp.net, Bluffer's Guide: Fortress Cuba. Pics of T--55 tank chassis as SAM TEL in the thread.
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?149472-Bluffer%E2%80%99s-guide-Fortress-Cuba
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Posted: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 - 11:33 AM UTC

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Looks like a slovenian upgrAded t55. I also think thebtr combo is from a type62 turret with the 85mm gun. Great pix....



I can stand corrected but that "T-55" seems to me more like a chinese upgrade, like those with ERA blocks fitted to some of their Type-59/69's, which in some cases were also upgraded with 105mm main guns.
Take a look at this pic of a Type 69II from Wikipedia:


Om the other side, the only slovenian (in fact israeli made) conversion I know is this one:

Cannot specify image rights since I found it a long time ago in the web and do not have its author name

I agree about the BTR combo, looks like a modified Type-62/63 turret
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Posted: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 - 10:15 AM UTC
I've seen a similar conversion for a proposal on BTR, but can't seem to find where, or in what online catalogue I've seen it?


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chefchris
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Posted: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 - 09:34 AM UTC
Looks like a slovenian upgrAded t55. I also think thebtr combo is from a type62 turret with the 85mm gun. Great pix....
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Posted: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 - 09:05 AM UTC
I second Jacques. Definitely not a T-55 turret. As a starting point, your Lindberg turret will require a lot of work to turn into this particular turret. Plastic card will be your best friend. This will be for sure a very interesting project to follow when your start it.

Olivier
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Posted: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 - 03:39 AM UTC
I do not think that is a T-55 turret. It may be a modified turret from a Type-62 light tank or a Type-63 light tank. Or it may be a indigenous design.

BTR-60 is not a big APC, so I find it hard to believe a full up T-55 turret would work on it. If I were to bet, I would say locally produced turret with Type-62 parts (hatches, gun etc...)
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Posted: Monday, October 10, 2011 - 06:59 AM UTC
I, for one, would definitely follow a build log on the BTR/T-55. I will file that one away as well for a future project when I whittle the current stash down some first.
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Posted: Sunday, October 09, 2011 - 04:20 PM UTC
I am already looking into making the BTR-60 T-55 combo. I'm thinking kit bashing a Trumpeter BTR 60P and say a lindberg t-55 kit. Lindberg will be a cheap donor for the turret which I will lay down somef sheet steyrene onto, so the accuracy of the turret won't be a big deal. Look around for a suitable metal barrel and make the muzzle break for it. Something like that. As progress continues, I'll have to start a build log (my first one!).
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Posted: Sunday, October 09, 2011 - 01:48 PM UTC
The BTR/T-55 combination would make for an unusual addition to the armor collection. Interesting.
ComradeMP
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Posted: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 - 08:34 PM UTC
Hey all.

I've seen these two pictures on the net and was thinking I would try building them. Not sure if you guys have seen these around, maybe something interesting to try.

First one is a Vietnamese T-55 upgraded to T-55 M3 (Israeli upgrade?).



Second one is a Cuban BTR-60 with a T-55 turret






Gonna try and dig up some more info on these machines. If anyone knows a little something, by all means share.