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pdelsoglio
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Posted: Sunday, September 25, 2011 - 10:23 AM UTC
Hello there!
I just want to share with my latest little diorama.
It was inspired by this foto:



So, I used thre Dragon's Infanteriekarren, and two figures from Dragon's Panzer Riders with some minor posture modifications. The heads from the figures are from Tamiya's Opel Blitz drivers.
I use Parsec putty to make the neck from the horse, and scratch-built the entire harness out of tin foil, copper wire and paper. EZ Water was used to replicate the water.
I am not entirely satisfied on the water appearance, however, as it was my first time with the product, I can call it a decent work.
Hope you like it.
And, as usual, all criticisms and remarks will be appreciated.
Cheers.

















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Posted: Sunday, September 25, 2011 - 10:33 AM UTC
Pablo,

I like your little dio. I think why you aren't satisfied with the water is because it needs many little ripples and stirred up mud/dirt in the water especially around the horses legs and the carts wheels, just like your reference photo shows. Unfortunately, I cannot give suggestions of how to achieve this.

Otherwise it looks quite good.
pdelsoglio
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Posted: Sunday, September 25, 2011 - 10:53 AM UTC

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Pablo,

I like your little dio. I think why you aren't satisfied with the water is because it needs many little ripples and stirred up mud/dirt in the waterespecially around the horses legs and the carts wheels, just like your reference photo shows. Unfortunately, I cannot give suggestions of how to achieve this.

Otherwise it looks quite good.



Thanks for your remarks. Right now, your words describe the exact thought that I have about the water. I guess I will have to improve that aspect of the diorama.
Cheers.
Pablo
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Posted: Sunday, September 25, 2011 - 12:39 PM UTC
I really like the whole idea.
(I corrected the title, from zip to sip for you. (A zip is a little different from a sip in my neck of the woods- I'm sure you'll be able to figure it out-LOL)

You could try painting the stired up mud, etc on your water surface, add some ripples with old fashion tube glue, and after evrything dries, put on several clear gloss coats.
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Posted: Sunday, September 25, 2011 - 01:38 PM UTC
I like the idea as it is an interesting setting. I have one negative which is that animals do not enter/stand in cold water unless it is to avoid predators or if made to enter the water.
pdelsoglio
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Posted: Sunday, September 25, 2011 - 04:02 PM UTC
Hello there.

@Dave: Thanks for your assistance with the title. Blame it on my poor English
And also thanks for you advice on the water effects. Will give it a try.

@Darren: Yup, you are right about that. However, as this photo is clearly an staged one (for propaganda purposes I am sure), the poor horse had to put his leg on ice cold water ... brrr....

Thanks for your remarks.
Cheers.

Pablo
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Posted: Monday, September 26, 2011 - 01:04 AM UTC
Hi Pablo

Clearly the horse in your real photo has not heard that he should not enter the water !!!!! Ha ha !!!!!!! I really think that you have captured that real scene to perfection even though I see what you mean about the ripples.

Have you access to clear silocon mastic, the type you use for sealing bathroom fittings to make tiling around them watertight.

Maybe small amounts of this applied with a toothpick in the paterns you wish and then apply some klear polish over it once set.

I really love the dio and I am sure if you wait till a nice winters day you could pose it against a back drop of real snow and you would not know the difference from the real pic.

Nige
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Posted: Monday, September 26, 2011 - 01:23 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Hi Pablo

Clearly the horse in your real photo has not heard that he should not enter the water !!!!! Ha ha !!!!!!! I really think that you have captured that real scene to perfection even though I see what you mean about the ripples.

Have you access to clear silocon mastic, the type you use for sealing bathroom fittings to make tiling around them watertight.

Maybe small amounts of this applied with a toothpick in the paterns you wish and then apply some klear polish over it once set.

I really love the dio and I am sure if you wait till a nice winters day you could pose it against a back drop of real snow and you would not know the difference from the real pic.

Nige



Ahhh... What an stubborn daring horse indeed! ja ja ja.. Thanks for your input on the silocon mastic. I will give it a little time to let all things cure properly, and then, will attempt to solve the ripple issue.

Cheers,
Pablo
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Posted: Monday, September 26, 2011 - 02:00 AM UTC
Hi Pablo. Id give 10/10 for the idea alone. Good catch. You captured it well ... no doubts ... but some ripples in the water would add a lot.
Woodlands scenics have two products .... realistic water which would be similar to the EZ Water you used in some ways, but they also have another product called water effects, which is white and thicker. Great for making ripples and splashes, and it turns clear when cured. So its easy to work with, cleans up with water and would be perfect here!
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Posted: Monday, September 26, 2011 - 03:11 AM UTC

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Hi Pablo. Id give 10/10 for the idea alone. Good catch. You captured it well ... no doubts ... but some ripples in the water would add a lot.
Woodlands scenics have two products .... realistic water which would be similar to the EZ Water you used in some ways, but they also have another product called water effects, which is white and thicker. Great for making ripples and splashes, and it turns clear when cured. So its easy to work with, cleans up with water and would be perfect here!



Hi Frank,
Thanks for your remarks.
I just googled the Woodland Scenics, and it seems a good product for such purposes. Will see if it available around this corner of the world.
As I mentioned before, I will give the diorama a little time to cure, and will evaluate all the options you folks kindly gave me.

Thanks all for stopping by.
Cheers.

Pablo
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Posted: Monday, September 26, 2011 - 03:52 AM UTC
Great little scene,Pablo. Nice work on the horse rigging. I would have no clue as to how to do that without loads of photos. I couldn't name any of the parts or their purpose either.
To add a very little to the other's comments on water realism is that the cart wheels/tires should have a wet look to them unless the little caravan has been still a long time. Easy fix but I noticed it right off.
Cheers!
Rick
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Posted: Monday, September 26, 2011 - 04:38 AM UTC
Pablo, Great scene, and outstanding execution. The water issue could only have improved an already great diorama.
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Posted: Monday, September 26, 2011 - 04:59 AM UTC
Ola Pablo

That is a neat little scene you created there. Well most has been said .I love the idea. So far the execution has been pretty good as well. You could do indeed some more smaller ripples in the water as had been pointed out and I second the opinion of Rick that the tires should be shiny from the trip through the water
pdelsoglio
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Posted: Monday, September 26, 2011 - 08:06 AM UTC
Hello there.

@Rick: Rick, you have a point there. The wet tires is something that I have completely overlooked. Guess is than it can be perfectly solved with a little touch of a glossy coat. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

@Robert &@Joel: Thanks for your remarks, guys. I really appreciate the time you took to write them.

Cheers, mates.
Pablo
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