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How to model a T-72
marcb
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Posted: Saturday, November 09, 2019 - 01:23 AM UTC
Some pics from a T-72M1 turret in Parola, Finland.





marcb
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Posted: Friday, November 08, 2019 - 04:54 AM UTC
Here's a comparison with the turret from JS models, based on a Finnish T-72:

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Posted: Thursday, November 07, 2019 - 11:56 PM UTC
Can't speak as to the accuracy but can address the buildability. It's simpler than the Trumpeter 72s in that if it has the anti radiation cladding (not at my workshop so I can't check) you don't have to add 200+ tiny round PE retainers. The tracks are workable but are a bit tedious to assemble but there is a jig supplied. There is a bit less detail than the Trumpeter offerings but it is also somewhat of an easier build. There is some PE but again not nearly as much as on the Trumpeter series. In my opinion when finished it is difficult to tell one from the other unless you look very closely. So I guess it depends on what you are looking for, an easier build or one that is a bit more difficult but a bit more detailed. Good luck.
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Posted: Thursday, November 07, 2019 - 03:00 PM UTC
What are the good and bad about Mengs T72B3?
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Posted: Thursday, October 03, 2019 - 11:03 PM UTC
And what variant that drawing shows?
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Posted: Thursday, October 03, 2019 - 06:47 PM UTC

This is what i meant
iguanac
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Posted: Wednesday, October 02, 2019 - 10:20 PM UTC
Can anyone compare Tamiya turret with some correct drawings? I had the opportunity to do so, and it only lacked a few mm o the back side. Frontal shape was ok, but depended on the drawings i used (they might not be correct?) I'll see if i can post any images (as currently i am in the office).
Thanks,
Marko
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Posted: Wednesday, October 02, 2019 - 04:52 PM UTC
Sean and Tamas

Thank you so much for the help. I am just coming back to modeling and intrigued in Modern Modern Armor. And the T-72 Specifically.

I have 5 of them and just want to be just I build and represent them well. Look for them soon. I just built a 5$ Italeri T-55. And it was horrible both kit and my work. So you wont be seeing that.lol. I will yes as an paint tester as I got a good airbrush now, well actually 2 of them.
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Posted: Wednesday, October 02, 2019 - 10:03 AM UTC
I have got the answer. It is T-72A with some extra armor on the commander’s hatch only. Any other T-72 (in Hungarian service) with full cladding on the turret have three boxes all around the turret - this has only two plus the snorkel tube visible on the left side.
And ses, the front of the fender and most of the small side skirt by the zip boxes is different for any reason. That small skirt shall be of gum bit here it is metal plate.

I hope it helps.
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Posted: Wednesday, October 02, 2019 - 03:46 AM UTC
Due to the uniform pattern, #5 and #7 photos were surely taken in Hungary.
I have asked a local T-72 expert to identify this version.

I do believe that the #5 tank is in the best condition and taken to any demos, exhibitions and public days countrywide. I have taken some photos from this vehicle, too.

Actually the HDF got several batches of T-72s from various sources and as I rmember the last time they arrived from Belarus (compensation). Any version is imaginable, even more mixing is possible due to using any spare part availalable at the time of mid-big level maintenances.

For example I recently modelled a Hungarian T-72A with 6 and 8 spokes wheels mixed because the (still existing tank) have them.

Best advice: build a tank based on reference photos.


Tamás
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Posted: Tuesday, October 01, 2019 - 11:14 PM UTC
I'll give it a shot

#1 agree, T-72A model 1983 (late production)

#2 beat up T-72B, ERA bricks often missing

#3 agree. Not sure on barrel, thermal wrap may just be missing.

#4 & #6 may be same vehicle, Azeri T-72B1 ? looks like it has standard gunners sight.

#5 & #7 both T-72 model 1979 (mid production)? questionable because of front fenders.

Sean
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Posted: Tuesday, October 01, 2019 - 07:02 AM UTC
Anyone? Jaques, Jimbo, steve,Sean?
Thundergrunt
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Posted: Monday, September 30, 2019 - 06:30 AM UTC
#4 T-72AV ??? (New Launchers, Anti Rad)
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#5 T-72M1A ?? ( Reinforced Upper, Thicker Turret with Launchers)
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#6 T-72AV or B early ?? (Anti Rad, New Launcher)
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#7 T-72A Mid??
T-72-es
Thundergrunt
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Posted: Monday, September 30, 2019 - 06:14 AM UTC
OK Professesors its quiz time for the new guy, want to make sure I got my nomenclature right for my builds I have planned.

#1 T-72A Late ??
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#2 T-72AV ?? (No ERA on Sides or double bricks left side of gun)
132-C9-AC1-B234-443-A-9219-AFA08-DDFFB65-mw800-s

#3 T-72AV?? ( V shaped Kontackt 1 Bricks, also Differnet Barrel)
30090078543-d5dab8739c-b
seanmcandrews
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Posted: Monday, September 30, 2019 - 05:58 AM UTC
Yes, on the T-72B you'll see the original RMsh tracks as well as the split type which first appeared on the T-90 AFAIK. I'd imagine this is the type you'd see on any upgraded or re-manufactured tanks.

Sean
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Posted: Monday, September 30, 2019 - 05:03 AM UTC
That's it wow. I fell stupid I looked and looked for any differences but missed that.

2nd Question is it the same for tracks. I see some are the metal type and some have the split in middle are those remanufactured tanks?
seanmcandrews
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Posted: Monday, September 30, 2019 - 04:27 AM UTC
gunners sight , B is equipped to fire ATGM while B1 is not

https://informnapalm.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Selection_148.png

Sean
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Posted: Monday, September 30, 2019 - 02:06 AM UTC
Hey Guys,

Long time no Talk but getting back at it, I have a silly question that I cant find the answer too, I have seen a lot of text but no pics. Can someone tell me the difference between a T-72B and a B1 both with ERA? I can kinda tell between an AV an B with ERA but a B-B1 I cant tell they look exactly the same to me. Thanks in advance.
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Posted: Sunday, June 23, 2019 - 03:27 AM UTC
Apologies for digging this thread up, but I have a question regarding Czechoslovak and Polish built T-72's.

Is there a list of diagnostic features for these tanks in the same way as there is for the T-55's built by these countries?

I have had a stab at using the search engine but I haven't as of yet found anything.

Thanks in advance,

Michael.
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Posted: Monday, September 18, 2017 - 09:02 PM UTC
Yeah, I haven't seen anything either.

I'll just wait around until I can snag a glacis. Already putting in a lot of effort to make sure it's correct.
Jacques
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Posted: Monday, September 18, 2017 - 06:32 PM UTC
So far I have not found any images showing ANY T-72 Ural with the front glacis add on armor. Even the stock from Russia that was sent to Syria has no additional armor.

For the Polish T-72, you probably should change the glacis even if there ever was 1 made because it would not be what is most often seen. IF you want a representative model, that is.

Or you can have fun and build it the way you want.
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Posted: Sunday, September 17, 2017 - 01:09 AM UTC
Thanks, looks like a no on the applique armor from those photos.
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Posted: Saturday, September 16, 2017 - 09:45 PM UTC
I think this link shows what you want: https://www.armyrecognition.com/polish_poland_army_main_battle_tank/t-72_main_battle_heavy_tank_polish_army_poland_description_pictures_technical_data_sheet_identificat.html
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Posted: Saturday, September 16, 2017 - 04:49 PM UTC
Yeah, couldn't remember the term at the moment. I have the Miniarm M1975 turret