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Best primer on the market?
Blucop
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Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2019 - 12:31 PM UTC

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Anyone tried the Mission Model primer?



I have for the first time just recently. As far as an acrylic primer goes it is by far the best I have ever used. Still not as durable as a Lacquer based primer (except Alclad which I have never had great luck with). I will continue to use it from time to time but my favorite is AK Interactive Black Primer & Microfiller. The stuff stays down, is smooth, and comes in a large enough bottle to last me a good while.
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Posted: Monday, November 05, 2018 - 05:43 PM UTC
Just wanted to let everyone know that we have added 2 new primers to our product line; TCP-007 is a dark gray primer while TCP-256 is a very light gray primer (intended for lighter colors like white, yellows, etc.). Both primers have superb adhesion properties to model plastic as well as extruded plastic sheets (like Evergreen styrene) that allows any color to be painted over them within 45-60 minutes after application.

Primers are available in 1 (30 ml) and 2 oz. (60 ml) bottles from your favorite retailer or from us directly.

Now metallic paints such as Titanium, Steel, Copper, Brass, Silver, Tin, etc. can be sprayed without going through time consuming (and hit and miss) preparations.

If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to ask on this forum, call or email us.

Dr. Martin Cohen
Tru-Color Paint
P.O. Box 74524
Phoenix, AZ 85087-4524

714-488-9779

email: tru.colorpaint1@yahoo.com

X-FUZZ
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Posted: Saturday, September 22, 2018 - 04:12 PM UTC
Anyone tried the Mission Model primer?
retiredyank
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Posted: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 - 11:10 AM UTC

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Hi Joe,

buy only Alclad II grey primer. This primer is the only one out on the market, that does the job it is developed for. Water based primers are good for your health and environment, but useless for serious modelling. Use Alclad II grey primer and you will never have any problems with the primer being detached from the plastic.

Vallejo, Revell and other water based primers are for the trashcan. I´ve spent more than 50 Euro on different primers, from automotive up to enamel and new water based primers that received "very good" reviews.

I usually spray the Alclad II primer with 0.8 bar and a 0.5mm airbrush. No further thinning is needed.

Take my advice and you will never regret it.



I have experienced the opposite, when compared to Stylenrez. Stylenrez sticks to metal and only requires one coat. Alclad will flake off and requires three or more coats.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 - 08:50 AM UTC

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Hi Joe,

buy only Alclad II grey primer. This primer is the only one out on the market, that does the job it is developed for. Water based primers are good for your health and environment, but useless for serious modelling. Use Alclad II grey primer and you will never have any problems with the primer being detached from the plastic.

Vallejo, Revell and other water based primers are for the trashcan. I´ve spent more than 50 Euro on different primers, from automotive up to enamel and new water based primers that received "very good" reviews.

I usually spray the Alclad II primer with 0.8 bar and a 0.5mm airbrush. No further thinning is needed.

Take my advice and you will never regret it.



I I’d only knew how to open my tins...
retiredyank
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Posted: Monday, January 15, 2018 - 03:41 AM UTC
Stylynrez hands down. Good coverage, sprayed directly from bottle, cures quickly (10 minutes), does not lift off.
PatriotaModels
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Posted: Wednesday, October 04, 2017 - 11:26 PM UTC
Hi Joe,

buy only Alclad II grey primer. This primer is the only one out on the market, that does the job it is developed for. Water based primers are good for your health and environment, but useless for serious modelling. Use Alclad II grey primer and you will never have any problems with the primer being detached from the plastic.

Vallejo, Revell and other water based primers are for the trashcan. I´ve spent more than 50 Euro on different primers, from automotive up to enamel and new water based primers that received "very good" reviews.

I usually spray the Alclad II primer with 0.8 bar and a 0.5mm airbrush. No further thinning is needed.

Take my advice and you will never regret it.
Vicious
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Posted: Wednesday, October 04, 2017 - 05:18 AM UTC

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Badger STYNLREZ is a Acrilyc primer not a surfacer but i can sand it easily whitout any problem


Is it a true acrylic? That is, does it contain any solvents at all?
If so I may have to try it.

But my point was that so many people try to use Vallejo primer to fill seams and gaps, not as a prep for painting and then complain when it doesn't work.



Yep...is a true acrilyc no solvent,nearly 0 smell,is thick but you can spry out of the bottle at 25-30psi whit a 3.0, nozzle,I often use the gray primer because it makes small defects stand out, especially when I do figure, and with the STYNLREZ I can sand and fix the problem,is nearly good as a laquer or enamel primer...the only real problem is the name "STYNLREZ" !?!?!...unpronounceable

the video speak better than tousand words

https://youtu.be/IpUAqZAspCk

you have a lot of reviews and all the more than positive about it...and is made in U.S.A

Ammo of Mig rebrand as "One shot primer" but from badger is cheaper,and also UMP sell under is brand.
TotemWolf
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Posted: Wednesday, October 04, 2017 - 04:52 AM UTC

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Badger STYNLREZ is a Acrilyc primer not a surfacer but i can sand it easily whitout any problem


Is it a true acrylic? That is, does it contain any solvents at all?
If so I may have to try it.

But my point was that so many people try to use Vallejo primer to fill seams and gaps, not as a prep for painting and then complain when it doesn't work.
Vicious
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Posted: Wednesday, October 04, 2017 - 03:15 AM UTC

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Because it's a primer not a surfacer.



Badger STYNLREZ is a Acrilyc primer not a surfacer but i can sand it easily whitout any problem
Removed by original poster on 10/04/17 - 22:14:25 (GMT).
TotemWolf
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Posted: Wednesday, October 04, 2017 - 03:08 AM UTC

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The Acrylicos Vallejo Primers, with 17 references, can be a good option over all surfaces like plastic, resin, metal or brass.
Best regards



Vallejo is a good primer with a huge choice of colors but then the "love story" ends the day you have to sand it ... unsandable, rolls on itself...

Because it's a primer not a surfacer.
Vicious
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Posted: Wednesday, October 04, 2017 - 02:08 AM UTC

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The Acrylicos Vallejo Primers, with 17 references, can be a good option over all surfaces like plastic, resin, metal or brass.
Best regards



Vallejo is a good primer with a huge choice of colors but then the "love story" ends the day you have to sand it ... unsandable, rolls on itself...
Barrikadyzavod
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Posted: Tuesday, October 03, 2017 - 01:25 PM UTC
The Acrylicos Vallejo Primers, with 17 references, can be a good option over all surfaces like plastic, resin, metal or brass.
Best regards
Grindcore
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Posted: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 - 10:02 AM UTC

The STYNLREZ sounds good, just ordered some off of Amazon.
PorkChopper
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Posted: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 - 07:28 AM UTC
Badger's Stynylrez is the best primer I've ever used. I've figuratively thrown my stinky Mr Surfacer on the trash heap since discovering it.
Vicious
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Posted: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 04:43 AM UTC

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I have had very poor luck with any of the polyurethane water based primers...terrible luck. A cellulose base lacquer primer will do a much better job especially with any sanding or adhesion issues.



STYNLREZ from Badger is my new favourite,also rebranded from Ammo under the name "ONE SHOT PRIMER" or from UMP "Utimate primer" is Acrylic,not smelly but work like a laquer/Elamel,self levelling,strong,you can sand,is awesome.

on youtube is planty of super positive review.
Blucop
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Posted: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 04:04 AM UTC

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For me, Vallejo primer range is the best option with water based acrylic poliurethane resin, perfect ofr all surfaces like resin,plastic, brass or white metal...
https://www.facebook.com/267763626586040/photos/?tab=album&album_id=681613661867699



I have had very poor luck with any of the polyurethane water based primers...terrible luck. A cellulose base lacquer primer will do a much better job especially with any sanding or adhesion issues.
Barrikadyzavod
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Posted: Sunday, November 13, 2016 - 04:56 PM UTC
For me, Vallejo primer range is the best option with water based acrylic poliurethane resin, perfect ofr all surfaces like resin,plastic, brass or white metal...
https://www.facebook.com/267763626586040/photos/?tab=album&album_id=681613661867699
johnsmith1966
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Posted: Sunday, May 15, 2016 - 11:22 AM UTC
I use Vallejo primer and their airbrush thinner but only a couple drops and only Vallejo thinner.
TDZepp
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Posted: Sunday, November 01, 2015 - 08:47 PM UTC
Decanted automotive primers are great
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Posted: Sunday, November 01, 2015 - 05:49 PM UTC

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STYNLREZ, anybody use it?
Vallejo does not sand well, but heard good things about Badgers Primer.
G.



Yes, I've recently started using it. Haven't tried to sand it, though. Never was able to get used to the Vallejo or other (AK, Ammo) urethane primers, but I like the Stynylrez much better. Goes on smoother and seems to have better adhesion on metal than the others.
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Posted: Sunday, November 01, 2015 - 06:07 AM UTC
I like the model master acryl grey primer, covers well. Slight odor, I dont like the tamiya surface liquid primer. Never had any luck with it. I did try the tamiya primer in the spray can,worked well but a little too pricey
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Posted: Thursday, August 06, 2015 - 04:25 PM UTC
STYNLREZ, anybody use it?
Vallejo does not sand well, but heard good things about Badgers Primer.
G.