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1:32 Bf 110D/E Nightfighter
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Posted: Sunday, August 22, 2010 - 11:29 PM UTC
Here's a look at Dragon's latest largescale Bf 110 - a 2-in1 kit with parts to build either a 'D or 'E equipped as a nightfighter.

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Posted: Monday, August 23, 2010 - 02:15 AM UTC
wow this looks amazing!
I guess another '110 is in my future. I'd love to compare and contrast this to the revell kit...from the sprue shots alone its apples and oranges.
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Posted: Monday, August 23, 2010 - 06:24 AM UTC

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I guess another '110 is in my future. I'd love to compare and contrast this to the revell kit...from the sprue shots alone its apples and oranges.


The RoG kits aren't even in the same solar system. Having built the RoG G-4 nightfighter, I would warn everyone to avoid them like the proverbial plague.

Nice review, Rowan! Cheers.
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Posted: Monday, August 23, 2010 - 12:08 PM UTC
I really like the look of these big 1/32 110 kits.

Is anyone who knows this a/c and has the kit in a position to say if Dragon will eventually be able to release a "G" nightfighter from the molds? That's the kit I'd like to build.

The "E" would be OK but I don't fancy being limited to an all black a/c.

Any advice re a potential "G" model would be appreciated.

Gary
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Posted: Monday, August 23, 2010 - 08:33 PM UTC
Hi Gary

If I remember rightly, Dragon have mentioned doing the 'G in future, but I haven't seen any CAD shots yet so it may still be a way off.

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Monday, August 23, 2010 - 09:53 PM UTC
Looks mighty impressive but... I really don't know why Manufacturers still give us kits with fixed control surfaces, knowing its more or less the first thing modellers wil want to tweak. Probably a money thing, but then they give us all sorts of other goodies instead.

Still I suppose its a blessing for the AM guys.

K
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Posted: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 01:32 AM UTC
IIRC 'E's saw use in other colrs besides all black in the NF role.
Plus having an E kit opens up a LOT if African schemes.
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Posted: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 03:54 AM UTC

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Is anyone who knows this a/c and has the kit in a position to say if Dragon will eventually be able to release a "G" nightfighter from the molds?


Yes-- and no.

The biggest and trickiest difference (from a manufacturer's standpoint trying to get the most mileage out of molds) with the G version is the hump-backed engine nacelles. In my case, I could not bring myself to scratch them in my build from the RoG kit, and no AM conversions were available then. Dragon will have to redesign the wing sections, which might allow them to detach some of the control surfaces and improve the kit. The fact that they now include stencils with this kit shows they do listen to suggestions from consumers and critics.

Given the time it took for this version to appear, I would not expect the G version to come out (if indeed it does) until 2012.

There is this conversion with DML kit. Pricey but it saves waiting. I haven't seen the set and don't know what its level of accuracy or execution or quality is.
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Posted: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 04:18 AM UTC
Thanks for the replies chaps to my "G" question - especially Bill for the comprehensive and informative reply.

I don't want to go the resin conversion way and will probably wait and see what happens. I would be willing to do an "E" but would want a nightfighter with the radar antenna - and - a scheme other than all black (If they ever did "E" nightfighters other than all black?)

Might just wait and see what the aftermarket decal companies come up with before I jump in and get one.

Gary
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Posted: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 04:27 AM UTC

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I would be willing to do an "E" but would want a nightfighter with the radar antenna - and - a scheme other than all black (If they ever did "E" nightfighters other than all black?)


This set includes the radar array (3 if I'm not mistaken). The Luftwaffe experimented with at least four major radar configurations I know of (little antennas, big ones with little ones, and just big ones, and finally big ones mounted on a single pole).

This book is essential if you're going to build a G (available here among other places):



I don't know of any non-black nightfighters at this stage in the war. Eagle Cals has a set for Falke that's all black. I believe he flew Fs.